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Robert, After reading your post, I could'nt help thinking....oh great, another little man who gets real big on his keyboard. Unless you'd be willing to talk this way to these guys in person, you have no business posting messages like this to the group. So Robert, whats the story? Are you a loud mouth that gets beat up a lot, or does this tough talk just come out of you when you are several thousand miles away from your target? Next time say what you want to say as if these guys were in the same room with you. If you're really a tech diver, then you'll be in Pompano Beach to dive one of these days (it has the best tech diving), and you just might start running into these people....Right now I'd love to see it. And why can't you just make you're point without starting shit. You are part of the problem right now in causing flame wars instead of talking tech diving. >Deutschmann, Raimo, and ANDI > > >To Frank Deutschmann: > >Frank, what are you, George Irvine's ventriloquist dummy? How far up your ass >does George have to shove his hand to work you? George is that proverbial tree >that falls in the woods when nobody is around to hear it. Leave him in the >woods! Frank, are you thick? I for one never saw a post wherein ANDI said it >"advocated" a >pp02 of 2.0 ata for bailout. Do you know the definition of the word advocate, >Frank? I think not. On the subject of diver supervision, either you are not an >instructor(who presumably would have been taught what indirect supervison >means), or you are incredibly stupid. By your own reasoning, there's not much, >in a direct supervisory way, that an instructor can do on the nitrox dives, so >what does that leave?- indirect supervision(duh!). From the posts I've read, >ANDI has made it clear that with any program it certifies for, ANDI requires >diving and must supervise in some way. There's only 2 kinds, Frank: direct and >indirect, period. If you still have trouble understanding the meaning of >indirect supervision, Frank, stop wasting ANDI's time and ask the RSTC or >take(or re-take, if necessary) an Instructor program. > >As for Robert Raimo: > >I urge all on the techdiver list to get their hands on a copy of AquaCorps' >current issue and read all about Mr. Raimo's dangerous and near-fatal diving >practices and pumped-up bravado about having survived WAYOVER THE TOP pp02's on >his recent deep air dives.Everybody's busy debating 1.6, while he's busy diving >to 350fsw on air! Despite his whining about whether it should have been printed >or not, once having read the article, I think we can all agree that HIS >CREDIBILITY IS SHOT. I for one( and I hope other rational-thinking people as >well) will never again take this clown's posts seriously. If this one >near-fatal dive of his found its way to publication, how many others that we may >never know about have not? > >It's obvious to me that Mr. Raimo was simply "caught in the act of being >himself" by a good investigative reporter. > >To Stuart Masch of ANDI: > >I have seen enough. You have previously posted ANDI's position on the subject >of pp02's and bailout, instructors sleeping through their responsibilities, etc. >Take it from me(who am I? - someone with at least as much self-importance as a >Frank Deutschmann!), you or any of the agencies do not have to waste your >valuable time responding *to the satisfaction* of the likes of Frank Deutschmann >or others of his ilk. Your response is your response. Frank is apparently >someone who HAS to have the last word in an argument. It seems to me that Frank >just can't bear to let >this thread die, what with the pseudo-banishment of George, and the general >"this has worn too thin" attitude of the rest of us. Stuart, you and ANDI have >much better things to do. Obviously these other guys do not. If I were you, >I'd stop giving them the satisfaction AND THE DIGNITY of further response. > >Robert Selchow > > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. >Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. > > Dan Volker SOUTH FLORIDA DIVE JOURNAL http://www.florida.net/scuba/dive 407-683-3592
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