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Deutschmann, Raimo, and ANDI To Frank Deutschmann: Frank, what are you, George Irvine's ventriloquist dummy? How far up your ass does George have to shove his hand to work you? George is that proverbial tree that falls in the woods when nobody is around to hear it. Leave him in the woods! Frank, are you thick? I for one never saw a post wherein ANDI said it "advocated" a pp02 of 2.0 ata for bailout. Do you know the definition of the word advocate, Frank? I think not. On the subject of diver supervision, either you are not an instructor(who presumably would have been taught what indirect supervison means), or you are incredibly stupid. By your own reasoning, there's not much, in a direct supervisory way, that an instructor can do on the nitrox dives, so what does that leave?- indirect supervision(duh!). From the posts I've read, ANDI has made it clear that with any program it certifies for, ANDI requires diving and must supervise in some way. There's only 2 kinds, Frank: direct and indirect, period. If you still have trouble understanding the meaning of indirect supervision, Frank, stop wasting ANDI's time and ask the RSTC or take(or re-take, if necessary) an Instructor program. As for Robert Raimo: I urge all on the techdiver list to get their hands on a copy of AquaCorps' current issue and read all about Mr. Raimo's dangerous and near-fatal diving practices and pumped-up bravado about having survived WAYOVER THE TOP pp02's on his recent deep air dives.Everybody's busy debating 1.6, while he's busy diving to 350fsw on air! Despite his whining about whether it should have been printed or not, once having read the article, I think we can all agree that HIS CREDIBILITY IS SHOT. I for one( and I hope other rational-thinking people as well) will never again take this clown's posts seriously. If this one near-fatal dive of his found its way to publication, how many others that we may never know about have not? It's obvious to me that Mr. Raimo was simply "caught in the act of being himself" by a good investigative reporter. To Stuart Masch of ANDI: I have seen enough. You have previously posted ANDI's position on the subject of pp02's and bailout, instructors sleeping through their responsibilities, etc. Take it from me(who am I? - someone with at least as much self-importance as a Frank Deutschmann!), you or any of the agencies do not have to waste your valuable time responding *to the satisfaction* of the likes of Frank Deutschmann or others of his ilk. Your response is your response. Frank is apparently someone who HAS to have the last word in an argument. It seems to me that Frank just can't bear to let this thread die, what with the pseudo-banishment of George, and the general "this has worn too thin" attitude of the rest of us. Stuart, you and ANDI have much better things to do. Obviously these other guys do not. If I were you, I'd stop giving them the satisfaction AND THE DIGNITY of further response. Robert Selchow
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