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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 14:26:24 -0700
From: saphire@ix*.ne*.co* (joan coval)
Subject: Re: unsubscribe
To: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
You wrote: 
>
>Hello George,
>
>	I don't think that unsubscribing to this group is an appropriate 
move on your part.  Let me tell you why I think that.
>
>	You are an incredibly bright and aware person and you have made 
and will continue to make a difference in the lives of every one who 
reads or listens to what ever you have and had to say;  this includes 
the flaming.  All of it.  Some times it is difficult for other peoople 
to accept the whole person.  (I personally have that problem about my 
self once in awhile).
>
>	So, some of the garbage that flew back and forth -- and among 
some well known names in the community too -- could have used a bit of 
social spin, so to say, only within the context of easing some pain and 
frustration that we all experience at times -- and, perhaps, adding a 
little nurturing stuff back to each other on other and different 
occassions.  Not too often, mind you. :))  Point is non of this to this 
point has really been serious stuff.
>
>	The  serious stuff  -- reguardless of any reason(s) is always 
about defaulting.  Silence.  You, know.  The fuck you.  "That one".
>	
>	As I am typing this to you, I can't help but think that I am 
having difficulty in separating out or distinguishing some sort of 
information that I keep picking up when I read and listen to  news 
groups such as rec.scuba and techdiver.   
>
>	Perhaps I am reflecting back to my flight instructor days and the 
similarity of so much pain and confusion, yelling and anger from the 
frustration of it all, what ever "of it all" is; and surprisingly --- 
actually it really isn't surprising so much of it comes from  well 
established and experienced people in the field and cutting edge of 
what ever it is that they do and in this case scuba diving.  And more.
>
>	And scuba diving is a platform for each of them and perhaps out 
of this they have seized a moment and try to express  what it is they 
want to express.  And they don't always know what it is that they want 
to express.  (As if the universe is something or some idea external to 
them and they don't get that it isn't and that it isn't an idea and 
that  this void of their child experience is being mirrored).  Karma.  
Perhaps.
>
>	And that isn't it.  Scuba diving isn't it.  It hasn't anything to 
do with diving or being at 150 fsw and pretty soon it becomes clear and 
in an intricate way there is spun an event that is in truth a renege 
but this  isn't recognized for what it is.  
>
>	It is recognized as kneeling face to face at a depth of 90 fsw 
and the stage is set because one person appears to be providing life 
sustaining air and the recipient is grateful and they are absolutely 
under control of the situation.  BCs empty; weight belts intact.  A 
configuration of physical stability which would  be appropriate for the 
condition and circumstance.  The benevolent diver has 1000 psig of 
precious air. Appearances don't lie.  Do they?  One is drowned, the 
other embolised.  At 90 fsw.
>
>	It isn't directly about redundant air supplys, rule of thirds, 
practicing emergency procedures, hand signals, controlling panic, 
servicing equipment, deep air, partial pressures or lack of experience. 
 This stuff is the flash, the smoke, the frosting, the tip of the ice 
berg.  These are the concretized forms of the acts and presentations 
that insulates  and burys what remains hidden so that it can be kept 
hidden. By agreement.  
>
>	The tragedy, the drama, takes form and finally comes to fruition. 
 Another report. Another statistic.  Fill the bandwidth of life and  
the Internet with cries of foul, incompetence, standards, restructure, 
rebuild, re-this and re-that.  Hurry, we need agreement while it is 
still warm.  For the flash, that is, for the acts and presentations 
that sustain the illusion of what isn't.  
>
>	Now we can make agencies wrong, course directors wrong, 
instructors wrong, dive master wrong, divers wrong, students wrong and 
especially anyone who is not a diver and is looking for and asking for 
information wrong.  The hottest game in town.  By agreement.  
>
>	And there are those who insist that information should be 
withheld because in their judgement  information made available to 
non-qualified and inexperienced divers is dangerous.  Never once 
specifying or defining what is meant by non-qualified or inexperienced; 
of course they don't include themselves as being associated with the 
non-qualified or non-experienced as some how they are a set above this. 
  The proponents of this idea to restrict and limit information are the 
real danger.    Agencies, instuctors and other key participants overtly 
stand in silence.  By agreement.
>
>	Take a look at techdiver and rec.scuba and notice that the main 
topics on a dedicated newsgroup  is about the sexual appetites and 
innuendos of dive masters on exotic islands. Ongoing  discussions such 
as Divemaster Requirements  and Technical Diving Censorship. Who is 
better  PADI or NAUI?  Can I take my dive knive in my carry-on baggage 
on board a commercial flight?     And they are bound up into the very 
pettiness of it all.
>
>	Unsubstantiated remarks, irrelevant comments,  bogus questions.  
Wilful withholding of essential information critical to the knowledge 
base and to the awareness of all divers.  Separation of subject matter 
and standards under the guise of coherancy and continuity.  Responses 
by  agency representatives, instructors, and other participants who 
clearly do not have any grasp or concept of the subject area or of the 
content of the subject being addressed.  
>
>	It couldn't possibly be about scuba diving because of the  
continued and ongoing  repetitive occurrences of those events that are 
labled as "accidents";  when in truth there is no such thing as 
"accidents" and  "reality" some how doesn't exist because there is 
massive movement to sustain this illusion of non-participation and of 
uncontrolled forces external to ones self that some how negates any 
precept of responsibility.  Each a victim by agreement.
>
>	It couldn't be about scuba diving because of the  construction of 
training programs that are designed using a paradigm based on unrelated 
fields. You don't build an IBM using a model of a farm!  It is 
recognized and yet there is silence by key players and other 
pariticipants.  By agreement.
>
>	It couldn't be about scuba diving because it  demands a response  
that needs to acknowledge that there isn't any real standard for 
proficiency nor any meaningful requirements to ensure  that appropriate 
standards exist in  training courses on the behalf of its recipients.   
Each falls silent knowing the truth and are embarrased and ashamed.  By 
default, their silence perpetuates the illusion.  By agreement.
>
>	Where lip service is substituted for the authenticity of truth 
and integrity.  Where even minimum standards are reduced or eliminated, 
and silently, incompetence is touted as the standard of perfection.  By 
Agreement.
>
>	The agreement by others who attempt to invalidate those that do 
speak out are loosing ground.
>
>	I am speaking of those who not only demand actual standards, but 
who achieve the  highest standards possible; standards that are 
consistant, nurturing and sustaining for each and every participant.  
By choice.  Not by agreement.
>
>	You diminish your availability if you remove yourself from this 
news group.  That hurts.  	
>
>	-Joan-
>
>
>
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