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You wrote: > >Hello George, > > I don't think that unsubscribing to this group is an appropriate move on your part. Let me tell you why I think that. > > You are an incredibly bright and aware person and you have made and will continue to make a difference in the lives of every one who reads or listens to what ever you have and had to say; this includes the flaming. All of it. Some times it is difficult for other peoople to accept the whole person. (I personally have that problem about my self once in awhile). > > So, some of the garbage that flew back and forth -- and among some well known names in the community too -- could have used a bit of social spin, so to say, only within the context of easing some pain and frustration that we all experience at times -- and, perhaps, adding a little nurturing stuff back to each other on other and different occassions. Not too often, mind you. :)) Point is non of this to this point has really been serious stuff. > > The serious stuff -- reguardless of any reason(s) is always about defaulting. Silence. You, know. The fuck you. "That one". > > As I am typing this to you, I can't help but think that I am having difficulty in separating out or distinguishing some sort of information that I keep picking up when I read and listen to news groups such as rec.scuba and techdiver. > > Perhaps I am reflecting back to my flight instructor days and the similarity of so much pain and confusion, yelling and anger from the frustration of it all, what ever "of it all" is; and surprisingly --- actually it really isn't surprising so much of it comes from well established and experienced people in the field and cutting edge of what ever it is that they do and in this case scuba diving. And more. > > And scuba diving is a platform for each of them and perhaps out of this they have seized a moment and try to express what it is they want to express. And they don't always know what it is that they want to express. (As if the universe is something or some idea external to them and they don't get that it isn't and that it isn't an idea and that this void of their child experience is being mirrored). Karma. Perhaps. > > And that isn't it. Scuba diving isn't it. It hasn't anything to do with diving or being at 150 fsw and pretty soon it becomes clear and in an intricate way there is spun an event that is in truth a renege but this isn't recognized for what it is. > > It is recognized as kneeling face to face at a depth of 90 fsw and the stage is set because one person appears to be providing life sustaining air and the recipient is grateful and they are absolutely under control of the situation. BCs empty; weight belts intact. A configuration of physical stability which would be appropriate for the condition and circumstance. The benevolent diver has 1000 psig of precious air. Appearances don't lie. Do they? One is drowned, the other embolised. At 90 fsw. > > It isn't directly about redundant air supplys, rule of thirds, practicing emergency procedures, hand signals, controlling panic, servicing equipment, deep air, partial pressures or lack of experience. This stuff is the flash, the smoke, the frosting, the tip of the ice berg. These are the concretized forms of the acts and presentations that insulates and burys what remains hidden so that it can be kept hidden. By agreement. > > The tragedy, the drama, takes form and finally comes to fruition. Another report. Another statistic. Fill the bandwidth of life and the Internet with cries of foul, incompetence, standards, restructure, rebuild, re-this and re-that. Hurry, we need agreement while it is still warm. For the flash, that is, for the acts and presentations that sustain the illusion of what isn't. > > Now we can make agencies wrong, course directors wrong, instructors wrong, dive master wrong, divers wrong, students wrong and especially anyone who is not a diver and is looking for and asking for information wrong. The hottest game in town. By agreement. > > And there are those who insist that information should be withheld because in their judgement information made available to non-qualified and inexperienced divers is dangerous. Never once specifying or defining what is meant by non-qualified or inexperienced; of course they don't include themselves as being associated with the non-qualified or non-experienced as some how they are a set above this. The proponents of this idea to restrict and limit information are the real danger. Agencies, instuctors and other key participants overtly stand in silence. By agreement. > > Take a look at techdiver and rec.scuba and notice that the main topics on a dedicated newsgroup is about the sexual appetites and innuendos of dive masters on exotic islands. Ongoing discussions such as Divemaster Requirements and Technical Diving Censorship. Who is better PADI or NAUI? Can I take my dive knive in my carry-on baggage on board a commercial flight? And they are bound up into the very pettiness of it all. > > Unsubstantiated remarks, irrelevant comments, bogus questions. Wilful withholding of essential information critical to the knowledge base and to the awareness of all divers. Separation of subject matter and standards under the guise of coherancy and continuity. Responses by agency representatives, instructors, and other participants who clearly do not have any grasp or concept of the subject area or of the content of the subject being addressed. > > It couldn't possibly be about scuba diving because of the continued and ongoing repetitive occurrences of those events that are labled as "accidents"; when in truth there is no such thing as "accidents" and "reality" some how doesn't exist because there is massive movement to sustain this illusion of non-participation and of uncontrolled forces external to ones self that some how negates any precept of responsibility. Each a victim by agreement. > > It couldn't be about scuba diving because of the construction of training programs that are designed using a paradigm based on unrelated fields. You don't build an IBM using a model of a farm! It is recognized and yet there is silence by key players and other pariticipants. By agreement. > > It couldn't be about scuba diving because it demands a response that needs to acknowledge that there isn't any real standard for proficiency nor any meaningful requirements to ensure that appropriate standards exist in training courses on the behalf of its recipients. Each falls silent knowing the truth and are embarrased and ashamed. By default, their silence perpetuates the illusion. By agreement. > > Where lip service is substituted for the authenticity of truth and integrity. Where even minimum standards are reduced or eliminated, and silently, incompetence is touted as the standard of perfection. By Agreement. > > The agreement by others who attempt to invalidate those that do speak out are loosing ground. > > I am speaking of those who not only demand actual standards, but who achieve the highest standards possible; standards that are consistant, nurturing and sustaining for each and every participant. By choice. Not by agreement. > > You diminish your availability if you remove yourself from this news group. That hurts. > > -Joan- > > > > the acts and presentations that insulates and burys what remains hidden so that it can be kept hidden. By agreement.� !w0^�d�&�&@^Me�&� �`(7(�T^� ����� ��0gt�p��`����|^��"6i� 4 w/46i>iBi:i��^� w/H��^�� ,��t���'��F��j������ ������� �2��`�����K��q��� �������������< >!��K��M��\��^���t�tItKttt�t�t� m� m& m( m� m< < > � � t� >t� >t�t�t�t�t t t ttZ t\ ttt�t�t�t�t< �� t� tm to tK tM t� t� t� t� t� m� m!m!��!��!�� >!���t�< >< Arial. > > And there are those who insist that information should be withheld because in their judgement information
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