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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:33:26 -0700
From: iantdhq@ix*.ne*.co* (IANTD )
Subject: safety-deep-limits
To: techdiver@terra.net
In following recent communications on techdiver I would like to offer a 
few comments:

First on the recent Aquacorps article. In one part of the material Bob 
Ramio stated he had been given certification as a rebreather instructor 
by IANTD with out knowledge of rebreathers. IANTD contacted Bob and he 
acknowledged that he does not have certification as a rebreather 
instructor by IANTD nor even as a rebreather diver. The error was due 
to a customer stating to Bob that he had seen some list where Bob was 
referenced as a rebreather instructor. The customer was wrong as no 
IANTD material in house or published, list Bob as a rebreather 
instructor. At this time Bob is not an IANTD rebreather instructor. Bob 
is a TDI rebreather instructor.

Bob Ramio is a close and valued friend of mine and the overall IANTD 
family. Bob is an active instructor with IANTD and is certified as EANx 
instructor, Technical EANx instructor, Trimix instructor, Wreck 
instructor, Cave instructor (#1), EANx instructor trainer, Technical 
EANx instructor trainer, Wreck instructor trainer and Blending 
instructor trainer. Bob is an exceptionaly qualified diver and 
instructor and somone IANTD is quite proud to have as a member. Bob is 
the primary author of the IANTD facility standards and its QA program.

Randy Bohrer is an outstanding member of the IANTD BOA who has 
contributed a great deal to technical diving safety, education and 
support materials. Randy is a EANx instructor, Technical EANx 
instructor,  Wreck instructor , Trimix instructor, Technical EANx 
instructor trainer, he is in process of completing his trimix 
instructor trainer, and he is a blending instructor trainer. He is also 
an experienced and competent cave diver although no longer active in 
this area. Randy was instrumental in the process of developing a method 
to track CNS toxicity and his work combined with Dr. Bill Hamiltons is 
the bases that most folks use to bases their calculations on. He has 
developed soft wear for many dive computers and is quite knowledgeable 
in all areas of tek diving. As a BOA member it was Randy who first 
recommended a QA program for IANTD.

Some of you have read disagreements on the net between Bob and Randy, 
please do not let this affect your opnions of their qualifications both 
are extremely competent and both are dedicated to diver safety. 
Hopefully they have resolved their differences.

Safety and deep air. First folks on the net should define what they are 
referring to as deep. It appears that dives to 150 to 200 feet or being 
compared to dives below 300 feet and that is like comparing a 30 foot 
snorkel dive to a 130 foot scuba dive. It is not the same animal. As 
IANTD keeps getting referenced on oxygen limits and deep air limits 
etc. Let me define these for everyone.

Deep air is a course to 130 feet which draws on the technology of 
technical diving and introduces it to the recreational deep diver. 
Ythis course employs stress management exercises, it uses either dual 
outlet valves on single tanks or a pony bottle of at least one third 
the primary gas supply. It also has the divers using lift bags and 
reels. It is an intense course.

Advanced EANx is a course that evolved from a demand by divers whpo 
sought more knowledge of EANx use and limited Deco but who did not wisk 
to bvecome ull fledged tekies. This course expands EANx knowledge, 
combines accident management, teaches the use of EAN 21 through 40 for 
bottom mix and up to EAN 50 for safety or real stops. This course also 
required the use of both a dual outlet valve on the tank and a 
pony/stage tank. 

NOTE!!  ALL IANTD COURSES MAY BE ENTERED BY EITHER PROGRESSING THROUGH 
COURSES ARE BY ENTRY THROUGH EQUIVALENT PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE.

The po 2 MOD (maximum operational depth) in recreational diving is 1.6 
ATA. The working POD (planned operational depth limit) in our text is 
reflected as 1.4 ATA. Reference page 50 of the Enriched Air Nitrox 
Student Manual and Workbook.

Other recreational programs by IANTD include open water, advanced open 
water, (these programs are more skill and theory orientated than most 
other open water training programs), dive master, intro rebreather, 
rebreather, overhead environment, intro to cave, gas blender, and 
speciality diver.

In technical diving programs which IANTD defines as: All dives 
requiring a deco stop, all dives deeper than 130 feet and all 
penetrations into an overhead environment beyond surface light are 
technical dives.

Advanced Deep Air is a training program to a depth of 160 feet. This 
course is intense in skills developed through the process of accident 
analysis and combined with a risk benefit projection by the student. It 
is heaqvy in stress management skills that duplicate knowm situtations 
that have led to accidents. The theory is that by training divers to 
react and control these events in simulated siturtation that the diver 
will be more capable to managing the same situtation in a real life 
predictment. It is also invloved with detailed dive planning, deco 
theory, and gas management. Like ALL IANTD courses it requires a 
minimum specified amount of bottom time and dives. It is time in water 
that makes quality divers and thus the emphasis on bottom time.

Technical EANx is the next program. This course allows dives to depths 
as great as 170 feet. In this course dives are trained to do exact 
oxygen toxicity tracking using the IANTD CNS% method. This is quite 
close to the curve devloped by Hamilton and Bohrer for dive computer 
use. It has become an established method throughout the industry. This 
program starts with a 1 100% per minute at a po2 of 1.82 ata- then 
evolves to 10% per minute at 1.7ata. on down to 2.22 % per minute at 
1.6 ATA and from that point continues the curve estabished from NOAA 
limits just as the Bohrer and Hamilton oli limits. The IANTD curve has 
been transformed into a linear function to add more conservatism so 
when the upper limits of the oli is compared to the IANTD CNS% the 
IANTD values are more conservative for additional safety on training 
dives. This course adds more stress management and equipment drills 
along with other skills. It is intense. Both the Technical EANx and 
advanced deep air program are considered as the foundation for tech 
diving and are a prerequisite for trimix training.

MOD in this program is 1.5 ata  POD is 1.4 ata. Reference the IANTD 
advanced deep air student workbook and the IANTD technical EANx student 
workbook. 

Example of MOD-POD
A cave dive is planned to 270 feet as the POD this dive would require a 
mix to not exceed a po 2 of 1.4 ATA. or 15.2% oxygen. The MOD is based 
on the what if case of a diver having to descend to the floor of the 
cave  to retreive a fallen stage bottle or some other reason. Lets 
assume the cave floor is at 310 feet. The MOD on a low exertion dive 
will be 1.5 ata po2 thus the mix would be 14.4 % oxygen.  On this dive 
then the operational po2 would actually be 1.32 ATA due to the 
requirement to stay within the MOD based on the depth of the cave 
floor.

Technical Deep Air represents the maximum depth IANTD believes to be a 
reasonable training or dive depth on air. In fact as reflected by the 
low number of cerified technical deep air divers we are rather 
effective in pursuading divers to evolve to trimix prior to technical 
deep air. On the other habd many come into a program with the intention 
of technical deep air certification but due to the education presented 
opt to change over to mix. We do offer the program and feel it is a 
safe one to train divers on.. When we estabalished the 190 foot depth 
it was based on practical experience and reviewuing accidents plus 
following the already estabished air deep limits of AAUS, CMAS, NOAA 
and others. We also feel this program closely follows the material 
published by Miles and Mc Kay in 1961. This material defined that among 
experienced deep divers a narcosis risk zone is entered at 180 feet and 
a danger zone begins at 240 feet. The accidents to experienced deep air 
divers tend to verify this work. I have survived more than 2500 dives 
deeper than 200 on air , several hundred below 300 and a all time deep 
dive of 400 feet . Several of my friends were not as fortunate. All but 
one of these who died, did so below 240 feet most in the 300 foot 
range.  The one who died more shallow was Randy Hilton who at the time 
was actually working under my supervision as a saturation support diver 
on the NOAA sponsored FLARE project. On his day off he and Dr. Dick 
Williams one of our hyperbaric physicians and a highly experienced cave 
diver who had added line in Eagles nest with me, Frank Martz, Jim 
Lockwood and Ike Ikehara did the dive at the nest where Randy died. On 
the dive Dick was to tie off the o2 while Randy ran the line to 200 
feet which is where the permanent line to the upstream tunnel begin in 
those days. Approximately three minutes into the dive upon having tied 
off the o2 tanks Dick descended to 190 feet where he found Randy dead. 
( sorry Richard Pyle the information you reported from earlier about 
this accident was inaccurate, Randy did die at 190 not 150 feet) This 
accident report is in mine and NOAA�s possession it is accurate.

Divers will do as many of us did and learn by survival, and some do not 
succeed, if not given the chance to be taught with proper skills, 
theory and equipment. It would be irresponsible not to offer deep air 
training as has been proven in the past, afterall that is why we 
started this program in the first place. This program actually does 
more to convince divers to continue deep dives on mix more so than to 
increasae their desire to repeat these depths or go deeper on air.

Billy Deans and myself have propossed to decrease the technical deep 
air diver to 180 feet which will need approval by the BOA, and our 
international franchises. If approved this would go into effect in our 
standards for the 1996 1997 year beginning in July of 1996.

Trimix I beleive is self explantatory it is the only safe method to do 
deep water exploration. Trimix should be used on dives that are deeper 
than 180 feet and definetly those below 200 feet based on o2 risk, 
narcosis risk and carbon dioxide retention risk. The IANTD trimix 
course was established in November of 1991 following much debate by the 
BOD and other IANTD instructors. The authors of this program started 
out with considerable reserve and have evolved to the point that we 
instead of looking at trimix as a limted program encourage it for all 
deep divers. Trimix like deep air does have its own specific risk such 
as a more intense deco risk, physiological considerations, and 
equipment dependency needs. 

Tom Mount, Billy Deans, Sheck Exley and numerous others were 
instrrumental in the development of this course. Tom Mount received his 
basis gas training (heliox in 1959-1960) Tom developed a heliox program 
at the UM RMAS that was responsible for hundreds of safe mixed dives 
between 1971 and 1976. At that time mix was used for dives deeper than 
240 at the UM RSMAS.  A deep air program was used that featured air to 
240 feet that resulted in thousands of safe accident free dives to 200 
feet and hundreds to 240 feet on air.  The mix program featured ten 
scientist and Tom and resulted in several hundred accident free dives. 
These were all supported by an onsite hyperbaric chamber. Billy Deans 
and Sheck Exley were the first ot offer widespread training of divers 
using trimix and heliair. They both developed programs in the late 
80's. IOn addition the WKPP at the time under the direction of Bill 
Gavin and Parker Turner were entering into gas diving using tables by 
Hamilton just as the Key West Constoretoum tables purchased by Billy 
Deand then Tom mount, Jim Badden, Wings Stocks and later on Bob Ramio. 
Currently IANTD has approximately 80 trimix instructors worldwide. 
Today IANTD has its own soft ware and waterproof tables for diving 
trimix.

In addition to these programs IANTD offers technical training in 
rebreathers, cave and wreck diving.

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