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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:38:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Roderick Farb <rfarb@em*.un*.ed*>
To: Jeff Kell <JEFF@UT*.UT*.ED*>
cc: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Tank transport info (need quick answer)
Empty the tank, leave valve intact, wrap valve in cardboard and duct tape 
well to protect it, check it as luggage and tell them its empty or put it 
in a suitcase and say nothing. I've sent tanks all over the world by 
commercial airliner including my rebreather with its two tanks with no 
problem.

On Thu, 14 Sep 1995, Jeff Kell wrote:

> I ask your indulgence in an off-topic question, but I'd rather ask you
> than one of the more frivilous diving lists...
> 
> I'm going on vacation next week, leaving Saturday, and am packing some
> extra (relative to recreational diving) gear in the event I can find a
> dive operator that doesn't run things strictly by the recreational book.
> To make a long story short, I'm trying to take a 30cf pony on a plane
> and out-of-country to boot.  I know DOT regulations say you can do this
> if the internal pressure is less than "xx" psi (around 50 as I recall).
> I've drained the tank below what I can measure by my SPG, and I can block
> the outgoing air with my finger, so there's not much in there.  Similarly,
> I've also heard they can demand you remove the valve, which isn't a very
> attractive alternative as moisture and so forth can get in the tank, but
> that is their option.  I have nothing to hide in there, but if they want
> to look, I'd rather disassemble it myself than risk my valve to their
> brute force and monkey wrench.  Unfortunately I'm not an equipment expert.
> 
> So... can someone give me a brief run-down on removing the valve and what
> tools are needed (standard US yoke valve)?  The base of the valve appears
> to be about 13-15/16" to grab onto.  Above that is a square area on the
> valve stem much smaller, but looks like it might damage the valve if you
> torqued on it very much.  So I profess my stupidity here, where do you
> grip the valve, and once removed, how much force do you need to apply to
> reseat the valve?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any information you could provide.  Normally I don't
> bother with trying to carry a pony, but on this trip I'm going alone and I
> certainly don't want to trust some randomly appointed buddy as my alternate
> air source.
> 
> [\] Jeff Kell <jeff@ut*.ut*.ed*>
> 
> PS - I have the tools, the silicone lube, and even a spare O-ring; I've
> just never actually done this before (if it is indeed necessary).
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