[Lots of stuff I agree with snipped] > But if we need standards to dive deep, as Win suggests, the > commercial divers have standards that ARE safe and they have > suggested we adopt them if we wish to dive SAFELY. That means > full face masks (so you can't spit out your reg in a convulsion > or blackout), tether to the surface, handler for each diver, > on site recompression chamber, on site medical staff for deeep > dives, etc. ad nauseum. Perhaps DeepTek will outfit all of us > or else they may suggest that if you can't foot the bill, you > shouldn't be in the water. Personally, I don't like people making > standards for my safety, I'm a big boy now. Although I am in favor of advocating a PO2 limit of 1.4ATM, I am NOT a big fan of "standards". This is another pet-peeve of mine, so I'll do my best not to let this get out of hand.... Let's all get one thing clear: Standards have VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH SAFETY!!! Many people have the false impression that creating standards will somehow decrease the probability of a person getting hurt or killed. Knowledge and training, NOT STANDARDS, are what decrease that probability (my definition of "training" includes much more than the forums that invole instructors and the exchange of money). In the commercial industry, standards can inderectly affect safety by forcing companies to provide basic safety to divers ('though I think fear of losing a big lawsuit, not standards, is the real motivator here). Standards in scientific institutions can be useful for providing a foundation upon which enforcement might prevent boneheads from killing themselves, but this is also indirect (also, in my experience, many scientific institutions are more concerned with preventing a lawsuit than preventing an accident). Standards, per se, are mostly important for things like liability issues (lawsuits & such), insurance premiums, and consistency among different training agencies. Many people in the tech-diving field are very concerned about these issues (as they should be), so discussion of standards is important. I comprehend the need for standards, and I think they should be designed so that adhereing to them will reduce the probability of a problem on most dives. But don't get fooled into thinking that the creation and wide acceptance of standards will help any given person stay alive any healthy. Only knowledge and training can do that. There, that wasn't too long, was it? Aloha, Rich Richard Pyle deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or* ******************************************************************* "WHATEVER happens to you when you willingly go underwater is COMPLETELY and ENTIRELY your own responsibility! If you cannot accept this responsibility, stay out of the water!" *******************************************************************
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