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To: techdiver@opal.com
Subject: Tech Dir/database
From: <RICK515@de*.co*>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1993 12:19:00 -0400 (EDT)
Hello All:

I awoke this fine Thanksgiving morning to two additional diatribes 
from my cousins across the pond concerning the technical site dir.  
In various manner I was accused of everything from attempting to 
steal the British birthright to the ultimate of all insults "gross and 
disgusting capitalism" and told point blank to "keep my bloody 
hands of their wrecks!"

For those of you who have missed some of this let me briefly 
restate the chronology.

I have, as many of you have no doubt, noticed, that the vast 
majority of sites that we dive aren't in the tour guides.  I mentioned 
this to a publisher acquaintance of mine and that hatched the idea of 
a printed guide since between us we have a large number of 
resources to draw from, the net being just a small segment of them.  

When I posted my initial inquiry, I unfortunately mentioned that I 
imagined that the publisher would probably not wish to see the 
contents of the dir. put on-line immediately.  It seems that several 
folks assumed that the net was our only source of information, it 
certainly is not!  

Several people got extremely upset by the idea that "the fruits of 
their labor" would not be available to all, while at the same time not 
considering that they were demanding all rights to a project when 
they would only be contributing a part.  That aside, when I 
mentioned the limited number of folks on tech-l, to the publisher, 
there didn't seem to be a problem.

At the same time I had imagined placing the files on-line  (really!) 
since I will probably compile the dir. on a database anyway, but I 
could not make that promise because my system is not directly 
connected and Delphi, which is my Gateway, is not an open system 
nor is it a charitable institution.  So before I could make any 
commitments to an on-line repository let alone a on-line database, I 
needed a system.  Within a few hours of my posting, jr@op*.co* 
sent me a message offering his system and database, viola!  JR has 
been out of town since he sent that message, but that put everything 
into the realm of a possibility.

So here is the proposal based on the information at hand.  
However, having not spoken to jr to discuss details, it may change 
somewhat.

1. I am willing to act as coordinator of site data and in conjunction 
with jr's offer, place that data on-line which is submitted via the net.  
This hinges on jr and I being able to come up with a workable plan.

2. Site data submitted via the net, will be made available as soon as 
it is technically possible to do so and anyone who has the resources 
available may access those files.

3. Site information I gather via my own resources, will be mine to 
do with as I please. (period)

Now, if that seems fair to everyone and unless someone else has an 
objection, lets get on with the nuts and bolts of this thing.  I really 
don't care if you folks in the UK form a group or contribute 
individually or not contribute at all, but if you really want this as 
most of you said you do,  then as we colonialists like to say "Lets 
Do it!"

Rick Williams

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