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From: "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
To: "Brian Hunter" <hunter49689@co*.ne*>, <girvine@be*.ne*>,
     "'Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com'"
Subject: RE: [dir-asia] Digest Number 102
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 07:34:53 -0400
Brian, these IANTD strokes can't even get what is on page one of any PADI
manual - the buddy system. They think it means "Buddy Inspiration". I can
not believe Joe Ditturi is "training director" and presides over this
collection of clowns. Of course, it is Mouth who is responsible for the
attitude of these big tough guys, not Ditturi, but as we can see, Mouth is
pushing it off on Ditturi.

This who incident just exemplifies what a stroke is ( that IANTD
"instructor"), typified what is wrong with dive instruction and tech diving,
and the part that none of these IANTD morons or other strokes get is that
even the dead guy's wife, who says she is not a diver, clearly sees all the
issues that any 5 year old child could understand in this situation.

That organization and the next one down the food chain ( TDI ) - if you can
indeed rank idiocy, mediocrity, lack of integrity, and level of cavalier
attitude about human life - need a wakeup call, and everyone who is
participating in and or supporting these morons is part of the problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hunter [mailto:hunter49689@co*.ne*]
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 10:47 PM
To: girvine@be*.ne*; 'Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com'
Subject: RE: [dir-asia] Digest Number 102


 Sounds to me like the diver should have took some responsibility and
not participate in the dive, if he read the owners manual.
 Of course we all (SHOULD) know that IANTD is the biggest group of
idiots in the training business.
 I hate to hear of anyone dieing but come on use some common sense, if
the manual says not to take the unit past 130fsw don't do it! 99% of
YOUR safety is common sense.
 Brian Hunter


a. dive in excess of 200 feet;
b. perform a staged decompression dive without any formal training or
certification; and
c. ignore, or failed to supervise, the rebreather manufacturer's written
instructions on depth limits and oxygen mixture levels, were in fact
heeded and observed. (To quote the owners manual, "it is designed and
manufactured for recreational diving, and MUST NOT be used at depths
greater than 130 feet or for staged decompression diving").

5) On this same trip, there were also at least three other separate
rebreather dives my husband Julian carried out with Mr. Santos prior to
this last tragic dive, that were also made at depths beyond the
rebreather manufacturers warnings and limits.




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