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From: "John R. Strohm" <strohm@ai*.ne*>
To: <joe@po*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Fatal Depth - JT nominated for award
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 04:28:01 -0500
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Joe, you know better than that.  Darwin Award nominations can only be =
made posthumously, because it is impossible to tell whether the nominee =
really has what it takes to win the award if he hasn't offed himself =
yet.

The most you can do about Capt JT right now is mention his name to the =
committee as someone they should keep an eye on.  I agree that he shows =
considerable promise as a potential nominee.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: joe@po*.co*=20
  To: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:29 PM
  Subject: Re: Fatal Depth - JT nominated for award


  >Now I hear some rumors about a 50-minute dive on the Ostfriesland, =
>complete with a deco habitat, just so you can say you did a longer dive =
>than JJ did at depth on the Britannic.  Awesome stuff there JT! Are you =
>going to do the extended dive so you can try and determine what=20
  > really sunk the Ostfriesland??


  I hereby nominate JT for a Darwin Award.





  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: "Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*>
  To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
  Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 8:27 PM
  Subject: RE: Fatal Depth


  > Hi JT-
  >=20
  > >Mike as usual you are full of shit. You are right about the year =
with DQ,=20
  > >but that is it. I have for your benefit added a couple of photos to =
my=20
  > >site, they have the Lobster in question and the date on the photo =
along=20
  > >with the guy who got it......not me.
  >=20
  > Man, the truth changes again.  Blame it on someone else.  At the =
time you=20
  > were boasting it was *your* lobster.  I did not see any other person =
with=20
  > you from your charter that day in the parking lot.  For fuck sake, I =
need a=20
  > program to keep up with all your "edits" and digressions.  BTW, is =
it legal=20
  > or illegal to spear lobsters?  As a USCG certified captain (and I =
use that=20
  > term lightly when referring to you) running dive charters you should =
know=20
  > that answer.  Instead of answering the question, go ahead and turn =
it back=20
  > on me about the artifacts (yes, you are that predictable).
  >=20
  > >Now as for me and my boat..... when you call see if he has the =
balls to=20
  > >admit he asked me to run for his shop when it first opened and  =
Dusty asked=20
  > >me to Capt his boat before he stopped booking through there.
  >=20
  > JT, this has nothing to do with anything.  It still was a POS =
6-pack.
  >=20
  > >Then ask about the last time I came in there and I caught him =
saying=20
  > >bullshit that was not true about an accident on the Miss Lindsey =
and he did=20
  > >not know I was on the boat when it happened and I confronted him to =
his=20
  > >face over it. I have my witnesses who were there when this =
happened.
  >=20
  > Wasn't there and it has nothing to do with my original post.  Keep =
to the=20
  > program please.  I was in the parking lot.  I saw the speared =
lobster (which=20
  > at the time you said was yours).  I saw you come in several times =
into the=20
  > shop and wouldn't stay away from the fill station and yapping about =
the "JT=20
  > show."  It was funny when you would come in as everyone would =
scatter like=20
  > someone just farted.  Then I would realize it was just you.  I =
helped put up=20
  > the "JT chain."  I noticed you didn't come in anymore after we =
called you a=20
  > moron.  What happened to me not knowing how to fill your doubles?  =
Give it a=20
  > rest jackass.
  >=20
  > >Get your dive buddy who sent me the photos of you guys removing =
artifacts=20
  > >off the Vitric when you thought it was a protected wreck, have him =
give me=20
  > >permission to place them on my site since he has his copy right =
mark on=20
  > >them and everyone will see the real you or are you the pussy I say =
you are=20
  > >and won't do it. I will not altar them or change them.......the =
title he=20
  > >put on them says it all. Just have him give me permission is all I =
need.
  >=20
  > JT, again here we go on another predictable bug hunt.  Yeah, I guess =
this=20
  > was the time I threatened you to keep your mouth shut, as you stated =
in=20
  > another post, right?  More JT bullshit.  Speaking of that dive, what =
did you=20
  > tell me in regard to my trip report -- something like "you were real =
nice"=20
  > about what happened to you on that dive?  Like when you ignored our =
advice=20
  > not to take your POS scooter past its depth rating on that wreck.  =
What=20
  > happened?  It flooded, resulting in you and one other diver adding a =
bunch=20
  > of gas to recover that POS.  Your arrogance and ignorance could have =
led to=20
  > a bad situation.  Again, you just don't get it, instead playing it =
off that=20
  > the scooter was "expendable."  I guess you feel the same way about =
your=20
  > fellow divers.  Or when you lost your knife, or when your light =
screwed up,=20
  > or you holding on to the line for dear life as you had no buoyancy =
skills,=20
  > or when you soaked in the water all day long as you had (and have) =
no clue=20
  > about decompression (sure, it was the low O2)?  Jesus, you were a=20
  > clusterfuck.  That's what we should really be discussing, and what a =
lot of=20
  > people asked you nicely about.  Such as how many dives you have =
done, how=20
  > many trimix dives did you do before doing something like the =
Ostfriesland=20
  > and Frankfurt, etc. (ect. ect)?
  >=20
  > I think everyone is getting tired of your "truths" [e.g., JT's =
"truth" on=20
  > your 2001 Doria dives:  "I spent most of the day in my bunk =
recovering from=20
  > a taskful dive" and "I also remained in seclusion on this trip, not =
happy=20
  > with my actions and not happy with the actions of one of my crew on =
a=20
  > personal note , we did not speak to each other unless we had to, =
more stress=20
  > for me. I was not having a good time."  The **real truth**:  you =
were bent=20
  > and on O2 in your bunk.].
  >=20
  > But getting back to your post.  Again all lies (I apologize as I =
understand=20
  > that saying "your posts" and then "lies" is a bit redundant).  We =
never=20
  > thought it was protected, so just quit lying about that.  Why don't =
you=20
  > relate the actual and truthful conversation that went on during the =
boat=20
  > ride out, when everyone asked if it was or wasn't protected?  What =
did I say=20
  > about the 300fsw contour?  Jesus JT, you are an intellectual nitwit. =
 If you=20
  > had such a problem, and think we truly had premeditated anything =
illegal,=20
  > why didn't you say anything at the time?  Check with those in the =
know, and=20
  > you will see that the right thing was done once it was realized a =
mistake=20
  > was made (it was all documented).  At the time, *even they* thought =
it was=20
  > not protected and outside of the boundaries.  I think I have told =
you this=20
  > in the past, but you refuse to accept it.
  >=20
  > So, I think that covers all the bases, you want to bring up the =
accident or=20
  > supposed "cover-up" now, or will you ever answer any of the simple =
and=20
  > direct questions asked of you by numerous people on the list?
  >=20
  > Again, you calling anyone a neophyte is a joke.  Just because you =
*survived*=20
  > a 400-foot dive does not make you a good diver.  Do you get that? =20
  > Apparently not.  Now I hear some rumors about a 50-minute dive on =
the=20
  > Ostfriesland, complete with a deco habitat, just so you can say you =
did a=20
  > longer dive than JJ did at depth on the Britannic.  Awesome stuff =
there JT! =20
  > Are you going to do the extended dive so you can try and determine =
what=20
  > really sunk the Ostfriesland??  I really hope that is just an April =
Fool's=20
  > joke.  Besides, you still have to come back to Florida to dive on =
that=20
  > 470fsw U-boat of yours (you know, the "sub" off Boynton).  I can't =
wait for=20
  > you to see what it really is.
  >=20
  > You have not done anything of note (not implying that I have, so =
don't get=20
  > your panties in a wad.  Remember, I am a neophyte).  All your =
boasting is a=20
  > tad funny, considering you are simply following in other's =
footsteps.  All=20
  > the dives you have done were several years after initial exploration =
by=20
  > other trailblazers, but with the HUGE difference that you have the =
access to=20
  > proper gasses, information about decompression, etc. (ect., ect.).  =
But, all=20
  > you can do is try and take cheap shots at them while you try =
desperately to=20
  > make a name for yourself.  In any case, with all this information, =
better=20
  > tables, etc. (ect., ect.), it *should* be easier for you JT, don't =
you get=20
  > that?  You are nothing but an illiterate hack that has yet to =
explore=20
  > anything new.  Whoops, almost forgot that fishing vessel of yours.  =
Bravo!
  >=20
  > I think I have fairly answered most of your claims.  Yet, you =
predictably=20
  > fail to answer one simple and direct question posed to you from =
multiple=20
  > posters on this list.  Instead, you always find a segue or try and =
"expose"=20
  > someone so as to take the embarrassing spotlight off you.  This is =
not going=20
  > to go away.
  >=20
  > 1.  How many technical dives have you done?  Please exclude the =
air/air BS=20
  > (such as when you almost became the second fatality on the Ocean =
Venture on=20
  > that one trip back in '96 or '97).  Just to give a clear =
delineation, let's=20
  > just include all helium-based dives below 150fsw.  I really don't =
care about=20
  > max depth or other silliness; let's just focus on proficiency.  Why =
don't=20
  > you break it down by year also?  Thanks buddy.
  >=20
  > I won't hold my breath, as I don't think you will ever answer this =
question.=20
  >   But, as you stated, anyone can go onto your website to quickly add =
up all=20
  > those technical dives of yours.  I think I didn't have to use =
anything more=20
  > than my two hands and two feet to cover most of them, definitely not =
more=20
  > than my two hands for any one year.  Just to give you a benchmark, =
so you=20
  > might someday get a clue, Billy Deans accumulated 438 dives on the =
Wilkes=20
  > Barre alone.  That's just one wreck.  Even if you cut that in half, =
or even=20
  > take 25% of that, you fall so far short of that it is preposterous =
for you=20
  > to call anyone a neophyte.
  >=20
  > Your infatuation with depth and time is going to get you, or more=20
  > importantly, someone else that doesn't know any better, killed.  =
Most people=20
  > that are doing 400-500fsw+ dives these days don't do a lot of =
advertising or=20
  > boasting (there is a fair bit of deep stuff going on, here and =
abroad, in=20
  > case you didn't know) as they realize that it is not something you =
want to=20
  > encourage new divers to quickly pursue.  For fuck's sake, even your =
fellow=20
  > VBTECH boys are trying to get that point across to you.
  >=20
  > So, go ahead and cry me a river.  Scream to the heavens that I am =
lying.  Go=20
  > ahead and call me whatever nifty redneck insult you can.  Go ahead =
and try=20
  > to post more of your "truths" to expose me.  Go ahead and digress,=20
  > embellish, stupefy, and outright lie to avoid coming to the =
realization that=20
  > you yourself, are nothing more than a neophyte.
  >=20
  > Oh, and be sure to have a r-e-a-l swell day.
  > Happy Birthday Jackass!
  >=20
  > Your friend for life,
  > Mike
  >=20
  >=20
  > _________________________________________________________________
  > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* =20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Joe, you know better than that.  =
Darwin Award=20
nominations can only be made posthumously, because it is impossible =
to tell=20
whether the nominee really has what it takes to win the award if he =
hasn't offed=20
himself yet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The most you can do about Capt JT right =
now is=20
mention his name to the committee as someone they should keep an eye =
on.  I=20
agree that he shows considerable promise as a potential =
nominee.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djoe@po*.co*=20
  href=3D"mailto:joe@po*.co*">joe@polarbearinc.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 06, 2003 =
7:29=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fatal Depth - JT
=
nominated=20
  for award</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>Now I hear some rumors about a =
50-minute dive=20
  on the Ostfriesland, >complete with a deco habitat, just so =
you can=20
  say you did a longer dive >than JJ did at depth on the=20
  Britannic.  Awesome stuff there JT! Are you >going to do =
the=20
  extended dive so you can try and determine what <BR>> really sunk =
the=20
  Ostfriesland??</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT size=3D3>I hereby nominate JT
=
for a Darwin=20
  Award.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From: "Michael Barnette" =
<</FONT><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:aocfishman@ho*.co*"><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>aocfishman@ho*.co*</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To: <</FONT><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>techdiver@aquanaut.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 8:27 =
PM</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Subject: RE: Fatal =
Depth</FONT></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><BR><FONT
size=3D2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>> Hi JT-<BR>> <BR>> >Mike as usual you are full =
of shit.=20
  You are right about the year with DQ, <BR>> >but that is it. I =
have for=20
  your benefit added a couple of photos to my <BR>> >site, they =
have the=20
  Lobster in question and the date on the photo along <BR>> >with =
the guy=20
  who got it......not me.<BR>> <BR>> Man, the truth changes =
again. =20
  Blame it on someone else.  At the time you <BR>> were boasting =
it was=20
  *your* lobster.  I did not see any other person with <BR>> you =
from=20
  your charter that day in the parking lot.  For fuck sake, I need =
a=20
  <BR>> program to keep up with all your "edits" and =
digressions.  BTW,=20
  is it legal <BR>> or illegal to spear lobsters?  As a USCG =
certified=20
  captain (and I use that <BR>> term lightly when referring to you) =
running=20
  dive charters you should know <BR>> that answer.  Instead of =
answering=20
  the question, go ahead and turn it back <BR>> on me about the =
artifacts=20
  (yes, you are that predictable).<BR>> <BR>> >Now as for me =
and my=20
  boat..... when you call see if he has the balls to <BR>> >admit =
he asked=20
  me to run for his shop when it first opened and  Dusty asked =
<BR>>=20
  >me to Capt his boat before he stopped booking through =
there.<BR>>=20
  <BR>> JT, this has nothing to do with anything.  It still was =
a POS=20
  6-pack.<BR>> <BR>> >Then ask about the last time I came in =
there and=20
  I caught him saying <BR>> >bullshit that was not true about an =
accident=20
  on the Miss Lindsey and he did <BR>> >not know I was on the boat =
when it=20
  happened and I confronted him to his <BR>> >face over it. I have =
my=20
  witnesses who were there when this happened.<BR>> <BR>> Wasn't =
there and=20
  it has nothing to do with my original post.  Keep to the <BR>> =
program=20
  please.  I was in the parking lot.  I saw the speared =
lobster (which=20
  <BR>> at the time you said was yours).  I saw you come in =
several=20
  times into the <BR>> shop and wouldn't stay away from the fill =
station and=20
  yapping about the "JT <BR>> show."  It was funny when you =
would come=20
  in as everyone would scatter like <BR>> someone just farted.  =
Then I=20
  would realize it was just you.  I helped put up <BR>> the "JT=20
  chain."  I noticed you didn't come in anymore after we called you =
a=20
  <BR>> moron.  What happened to me not knowing how to fill your =

  doubles?  Give it a <BR>> rest jackass.<BR>> <BR>> =
>Get your=20
  dive buddy who sent me the photos of you guys removing artifacts =
<BR>>=20
  >off the Vitric when you thought it was a protected wreck, have him =
give me=20
  <BR>> >permission to place them on my site since he has his copy =
right=20
  mark on <BR>> >them and everyone will see the real you or are =
you the=20
  pussy I say you are <BR>> >and won't do it. I will not altar =
them or=20
  change them.......the title he <BR>> >put on them says it all. =
Just have=20
  him give me permission is all I need.<BR>> <BR>> JT, again here =
we go on=20
  another predictable bug hunt.  Yeah, I guess this <BR>> was =
the time I=20
  threatened you to keep your mouth shut, as you stated in <BR>> =
another=20
  post, right?  More JT bullshit.  Speaking of that dive, what =
did you=20
  <BR>> tell me in regard to my trip report -- something like "you =
were real=20
  nice" <BR>> about what happened to you on that dive?  Like =
when you=20
  ignored our advice <BR>> not to take your POS scooter past its =
depth rating=20
  on that wreck.  What <BR>> happened?  It flooded, =
resulting in=20
  you and one other diver adding a bunch <BR>> of gas to recover that =

  POS.  Your arrogance and ignorance could have led to <BR>> a =
bad=20
  situation.  Again, you just don't get it, instead playing it off =
that=20
  <BR>> the scooter was "expendable."  I guess you feel the same =
way=20
  about your <BR>> fellow divers.  Or when you lost your knife, =
or when=20
  your light screwed up, <BR>> or you holding on to the line for dear =
life as=20
  you had no buoyancy skills, <BR>> or when you soaked in the water =
all day=20
  long as you had (and have) no clue <BR>> about decompression (sure, =
it was=20
  the low O2)?  Jesus, you were a <BR>> clusterfuck.  =
That's what=20
  we should really be discussing, and what a lot of <BR>> people =
asked you=20
  nicely about.  Such as how many dives you have done, how <BR>> =
many=20
  trimix dives did you do before doing something like the Ostfriesland =
<BR>>=20
  and Frankfurt, etc. (ect. ect)?<BR>> <BR>> I think everyone is =
getting=20
  tired of your "truths" [e.g., JT's "truth" on <BR>> your 2001 Doria =

  dives:  "I spent most of the day in my bunk recovering from =
<BR>> a=20
  taskful dive" and "I also remained in seclusion on this trip, not =
happy=20
  <BR>> with my actions and not happy with the actions of one of my =
crew on a=20
  <BR>> personal note , we did not speak to each other unless we had =
to, more=20
  stress <BR>> for me. I was not having a good time."  The =
**real=20
  truth**:  you were bent <BR>> and on O2 in your =
bunk.].<BR>>=20
  <BR>> But getting back to your post.  Again all lies (I =
apologize as I=20
  understand <BR>> that saying "your posts" and then "lies" is a bit=20
  redundant).  We never <BR>> thought it was protected, so just =
quit=20
  lying about that.  Why don't you <BR>> relate the actual and =
truthful=20
  conversation that went on during the boat <BR>> ride out, when =
everyone=20
  asked if it was or wasn't protected?  What did I say <BR>> =
about the=20
  300fsw contour?  Jesus JT, you are an intellectual nitwit.  =
If you=20
  <BR>> had such a problem, and think we truly had premeditated =
anything=20
  illegal, <BR>> why didn't you say anything at the time?  Check =
with=20
  those in the know, and <BR>> you will see that the right thing was =
done=20
  once it was realized a mistake <BR>> was made (it was all=20
  documented).  At the time, *even they* thought it was <BR>> =
not=20
  protected and outside of the boundaries.  I think I have told you =
this=20
  <BR>> in the past, but you refuse to accept it.<BR>> <BR>> =
So, I=20
  think that covers all the bases, you want to bring up the accident or =
<BR>>=20
  supposed "cover-up" now, or will you ever answer any of the simple and =

  <BR>> direct questions asked of you by numerous people on the =
list?<BR>>=20
  <BR>> Again, you calling anyone a neophyte is a joke.  Just =
because=20
  you *survived* <BR>> a 400-foot dive does not make you a good =
diver. =20
  Do you get that?  <BR>> Apparently not.  Now I hear some =
rumors=20
  about a 50-minute dive on the <BR>> Ostfriesland, complete with a =
deco=20
  habitat, just so you can say you did a <BR>> longer dive than JJ =
did at=20
  depth on the Britannic.  Awesome stuff there JT!  <BR>> =
Are you=20
  going to do the extended dive so you can try and determine what =
<BR>>=20
  really sunk the Ostfriesland??  I really hope that is just an =
April=20
  Fool's <BR>> joke.  Besides, you still have to come back to =
Florida to=20
  dive on that <BR>> 470fsw U-boat of yours (you know, the "sub" off=20
  Boynton).  I can't wait for <BR>> you to see what it really=20
  is.<BR>> <BR>> You have not done anything of note (not implying =
that I=20
  have, so don't get <BR>> your panties in a wad.  Remember, I =
am a=20
  neophyte).  All your boasting is a <BR>> tad funny, =
considering you=20
  are simply following in other's footsteps.  All <BR>> the =
dives you=20
  have done were several years after initial exploration by <BR>> =
other=20
  trailblazers, but with the HUGE difference that you have the access to =

  <BR>> proper gasses, information about decompression, etc. (ect.,=20
  ect.).  But, all <BR>> you can do is try and take cheap shots =
at them=20
  while you try desperately to <BR>> make a name for yourself.  =
In any=20
  case, with all this information, better <BR>> tables, etc. (ect., =
ect.), it=20
  *should* be easier for you JT, don't you get <BR>> that?  You =
are=20
  nothing but an illiterate hack that has yet to explore <BR>> =
anything=20
  new.  Whoops, almost forgot that fishing vessel of yours. =20
  Bravo!<BR>> <BR>> I think I have fairly answered most of your=20
  claims.  Yet, you predictably <BR>> fail to answer one simple =
and=20
  direct question posed to you from multiple <BR>> posters on this=20
  list.  Instead, you always find a segue or try and "expose" =
<BR>>=20
  someone so as to take the embarrassing spotlight off you.  This =
is not=20
  going <BR>> to go away.<BR>> <BR>> 1.  How many =
technical dives=20
  have you done?  Please exclude the air/air BS <BR>> (such as =
when you=20
  almost became the second fatality on the Ocean Venture on <BR>> =
that one=20
  trip back in '96 or '97).  Just to give a clear delineation, =
let's=20
  <BR>> just include all helium-based dives below 150fsw.  I =
really=20
  don't care about <BR>> max depth or other silliness; let's just =
focus on=20
  proficiency.  Why don't <BR>> you break it down by year =
also? =20
  Thanks buddy.<BR>> <BR>> I won't hold my breath, as I don't =
think you=20
  will ever answer this question. <BR>>   But, as you stated, =
anyone can=20
  go onto your website to quickly add up all <BR>> those technical =
dives of=20
  yours.  I think I didn't have to use anything more <BR>> than =
my two=20
  hands and two feet to cover most of them, definitely not more <BR>> =
than my=20
  two hands for any one year.  Just to give you a benchmark, so you =

  <BR>> might someday get a clue, Billy Deans accumulated 438 dives =
on the=20
  Wilkes <BR>> Barre alone.  That's just one wreck.  Even =
if you=20
  cut that in half, or even <BR>> take 25% of that, you fall so far =
short of=20
  that it is preposterous for you <BR>> to call anyone a =
neophyte.<BR>>=20
  <BR>> Your infatuation with depth and time is going to get you, or =
more=20
  <BR>> importantly, someone else that doesn't know any better, =
killed. =20
  Most people <BR>> that are doing 400-500fsw+ dives these days don't =
do a=20
  lot of advertising or <BR>> boasting (there is a fair bit of deep =
stuff=20
  going on, here and abroad, in <BR>> case you didn't know) as they =
realize=20
  that it is not something you want to <BR>> encourage new divers to =
quickly=20
  pursue.  For fuck's sake, even your fellow <BR>> VBTECH boys =
are=20
  trying to get that point across to you.<BR>> <BR>> So, go ahead =
and cry=20
  me a river.  Scream to the heavens that I am lying.  Go =
<BR>>=20
  ahead and call me whatever nifty redneck insult you can.  Go =
ahead and=20
  try <BR>> to post more of your "truths" to expose me.  Go =
ahead and=20
  digress, <BR>> embellish, stupefy, and outright lie to avoid coming =
to the=20
  realization that <BR>> you yourself, are nothing more than a=20
  neophyte.<BR>> <BR>> Oh, and be sure to have a r-e-a-l swell=20
  day.<BR>> Happy Birthday Jackass!<BR>> <BR>> Your friend
for=20
  life,<BR>> Mike<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>=20
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