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Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 06:10:29 -0500
To: "Tom Mount" <Tom.Mount@ia*.co*>, <vbtech@ci*.co*>
From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re: 2003 Beneath The Sea
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, <FLTechDiver@mikey.net>
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Thanks Tom, I'm sure I was not the only one that got confused as we talked 
about the dives after the presentation. It did cover a wide area and yes 
you did mentioned everyone that you have posted, even others.

At 11:01 PM 4/1/03 -0500, Tom Mount wrote:
>JT
>
>The 540 I Mentioned was a wall dive the presentation was on blue holes 
>-wrecks and walls
>
>We anticipate dives below 500 in Guardian but have not done that dive yet
>
>The deepest blue hole dive I mentioned was our plan to connect two 
>passages at 400 to 420 foot range
>
>We also will be doing dives on the Britannic in the project will be both 
>surface to surface and saturation
>
>And we have other deeper projects planned
>
>I did not reference any dives in the 540 foot range in the blue holes as 
>having been completed yet just the walls in particular last summer in 
>Cayman with m/ark Meadows and I in preparation for an anticipated dive to 
>these depths in a blue hole and the fact we wished to take the units to 
>those depths in a more controlled environment prior to doing so in a cave 
>in the event it does go that deep and we suspect it will.
>
>As you made a gesture as to my being an older fellow and I admit I'm but 
>it sure beats the alternative my age is 64
>
>Hope this clears the issue for those reading it as the program was very 
>broad I can understand how JT may have thought the 540 wall dive was a 
>blue hole dive
>
>Actually we may get even deeper than that on the blue hole dive but at 
>this point we do not know
>
>I do not remember stating distances at depth as I try to avoid that in 
>presentations I believe to be conservative I stated several hundred feet
>
>I also went through the international records held by various people such 
>as George and JJ which is now held by held in Europe by Michael and Bernard
>
>please play more attention in presentations so the info is correct as it 
>is important in this world to not confuse issues
>
>There was alot of material covered and I can understand your getting some 
>of it mixed up. But let me set the record straight on these statements so 
>they do not get blown out of proportion nor become misrepresented.
>
>I have the presentations on my computer if they need clarification
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:captjt@mi*.co*>Capt JT
>>To: <mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*>vbtech@cisatlantic.com
>>Cc: <mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com ; 
>><mailto:FLTechDiver@mikey.net>FLTechDiver@mikey.net
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:02 PM
>>Subject: 2003 Beneath The Sea
>>
>>Hi Everyone
>>For those who were unable to attend the show here is a brief report of 
>>what you missed.Please disregard minor inaccuracies or spelling errors. 
>>I'm sure someone will correct them.
>>
>>On Friday  Ike Bullock, Tom Sawicki, Nancy Hite,and JT traveled to BTS as 
>>representatives of LDC and Deanna Kenny for the Sea Fever dive vessel. 
>>Once at the show we  joined up with Rick Atkins and his future wife Erica 
>>as everyone rotated to man the booth. This allowed each of us time to 
>>enjoy the show and attend some of the seminars. Not to mention time for 
>>me to "stir the pot" on the local dive scene and far away.
>>
>>Saturday Tom, Rick, and myself attended Tom Mount's presentation on "Blue 
>>Hole and Rebreather diving" . I have never met Tom Mount and looked fwd 
>>to it. Tom is an older fellow and for his age( any age)is doing some huge 
>>dives.He showed a brief history of the RB and then talked of the 
>>exploration of the Blue Holes. he explained how everyone had reached the 
>>limits of OC diving there and now had to use RB for the max depth of 
>>540ft they had encountered. They had pushed as much as 3000ft back at a 
>>depth of 400ft, this was after they had already traveled several hundred 
>>feet at 170ft.
>>
>>I was impressed with his accomplishments and the fact that he was willing 
>>to share it with us. He also pointed out the death rate and contributed 
>>this to the divers being the cause. I understood him to say that most 
>>were not suited to dive the RB. I looked around the room and I felt that 
>>he was talking about 90% of those listening. I'm willing to bet that 
>>everyone in the room did not see themselves as the ones not suited, that 
>>Tom Mount was talking about someone else.
>>
>>At lunch it was pretty much a who's who of diving at the table and a 
>>discussion arose of a huge project in the making, seems bounce diving at 
>>great depths is over.
>>
>>Tom Sawicki and I also attended Gregg Bemis presentation on the Lusitania 
>>and Estonia. I found it entertaining that Gregg was now working with 
>>divers in the fight to explore wrecks. He was the one who had sued the 
>>team that dived the Lusitania in 1994. Now he was in a fight to let 
>>divers dive the Estonia. A team lead by him (he did not dive it) explored 
>>the wreck after several attempts by Governments to prevent this. He 
>>reported that metal was taken from the wreck and was analyzed by 3 
>>different companies and reported the same find. It had been fractured by 
>>explosion. He hinted that there was a cover up and would be exposed in 
>>the future.
>>
>>I met several interesting people, new friends and old ones. I had a great 
>>time, I saw the bell from the Andrea Doria and Bob trying to explain the 
>>DIR gear configuration to Steve and Janet. A very mixed show.
>>
>>One of the funniest things that happened was someone paged George Irvine 
>>to come to the Dive Rite booth, that his transpac was ready. I thought I 
>>saw several guys hanging around the booth after that. They had pizza 
>>stained Doria shirts on and a huge jacket on with one hand in the pocket, 
>>it was hot at the time. ;-)
>>
>>I will have photos on my site of the show very soon...........
>>
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>>
>>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in 
>>the water"
>>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
>>  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
>>Email     captjt@mi*.co*
>
>
>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in 
>the water"
>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
>  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
>Email     captjt@mi*.co*
>

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Thanks Tom, I'm sure I was not the only one that got confused as we
talked about the dives after the presentation. It did cover a wide area
and yes you did mentioned everyone that you have posted, even
others.<br>
<br>
At 11:01 PM 4/1/03 -0500, Tom Mount wrote:<br>
<font size=2><blockquote type=cite cite>JT</font><br>
 <br>
<font size=2>The 540 I Mentioned was a wall dive the presentation was on
blue holes -wrecks and walls</font><br>
 <br>
<font size=2>We anticipate dives below 500 in Guardian but have not done
that dive yet</font><br>
 <br>
<font size=2>The deepest blue hole dive I mentioned was our plan to
connect two passages at 400 to 420 foot range</font><br>
 <br>
<font size=2>We also will be doing dives on the Britannic in the project
will be both surface to surface and saturation </font><br>
 <br>
<font size=2>And we have other deeper projects planned</font><br>
 <br>
<font size=2>I did not reference any dives in the 540 foot range in the
blue holes as having been completed yet just the walls in particular last
summer in Cayman with m/ark Meadows and I in preparation for an
anticipated dive to these depths in a blue hole and the fact we wished to
take the units to those depths in a more controlled environment prior to
doing so in a cave in the event it does go that deep and we suspect it
will.</font><br>
 <br>
<font size=2>As you made a gesture as to my being an older fellow and I
admit I'm but it sure beats the alternative my age is 64</font><br>
 <br>
<font size=2>Hope this clears the issue for those reading it as the
program was very broad I can understand how JT may have thought the 540
wall dive was a blue hole dive</font><br>
 <br>
<font size=2>Actually we may get even deeper than that on the blue hole
dive but at this point we do not know</font> <br>
 <br>
<font size=2>I do not remember stating distances at depth as I try to
avoid that in presentations I believe to be conservative I stated several
hundred feet</font><br>
 <br>
<font size=2>I also went through the international records held by
various people such as George and JJ which is now held by held in Europe
by Michael and Bernard</font><br>
 <br>
<font size=2>please play more attention in presentations so the info is
correct as it is important in this world to not confuse
issues</font><br>
 <br>
<font size=2>There was alot of material covered and I can understand your
getting some of it mixed up. But let me set the record straight on these
statements so they do not get blown out of proportion nor become
misrepresented.</font><br>
 <br>
<font size=2>I have the presentations on my computer if they need
clarification</font><blockquote>
<dl>
<dd>----- Original Message ----- 
<dd>From:</b> <a href="mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">Capt JT</a> 
<dd>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*">vbtech@cisatlantic.com</a> 
<dd>Cc:</b> <a
href="mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</a> ; <a
href="mailto:FLTechDiver@mikey.net">FLTechDiver@mikey.net</a> 
<dd>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:02 PM
<dd>Subject:</b> 2003 Beneath The Sea<br>
<br>

<dd>Hi Everyone
<dd>For those who were unable to attend the show here is a brief report of
what you missed.Please disregard minor inaccuracies or spelling errors. I'm
sure someone will correct them.   <br>
<br>

<dd>On Friday  Ike Bullock, Tom Sawicki, Nancy Hite,and JT traveled to
BTS as representatives of LDC and Deanna Kenny for the Sea Fever dive vessel.
Once at the show we  joined up with Rick Atkins and his future wife Erica
as everyone rotated to man the booth. This allowed each of us time to enjoy the
show and attend some of the seminars. Not to mention time for me to "stir
the pot" on the local dive scene and far away.<br>
<br>

<dd>Saturday Tom, Rick, and myself attended Tom Mount's presentation on
"Blue Hole and Rebreather diving" . I have never met Tom Mount and
looked fwd to it. Tom is an older fellow and for his age( any age)is doing some
huge dives.He showed a brief history of the RB and then talked of the
exploration of the Blue Holes. he explained how everyone had reached the limits
of OC diving there and now had to use RB for the max depth of 540ft they had
encountered. They had pushed as much as 3000ft back at a depth of 400ft, this
was after they had already traveled several hundred feet at 170ft.<br>
<br>

<dd>I was impressed with his accomplishments and the fact that he was
willing to share it with us. He also pointed out the death rate and contributed
this to the divers being the cause. I understood him to say that most were not
suited to dive the RB. I looked around the room and I felt that he was talking
about 90% of those listening. I'm willing to bet that everyone in the room did
not see themselves as the ones not suited, that Tom Mount was talking about
someone else. <br>
<br>

<dd>At lunch it was pretty much a who's who of diving at the table and a
discussion arose of a huge project in the making, seems bounce diving at great
depths is over. <br>
<br>

<dd>Tom Sawicki and I also attended Gregg Bemis presentation on the
Lusitania and Estonia. I found it entertaining that Gregg was now working with
divers in the fight to explore wrecks. He was the one who had sued the team
that dived the Lusitania in 1994. Now he was in a fight to let divers dive the
Estonia. A team lead by him (he did not dive it) explored the wreck after
several attempts by Governments to prevent this. He reported that metal was
taken from the wreck and was analyzed by 3 different companies and reported the
same find. It had been fractured by explosion. He hinted that there was a cover
up and would be exposed in the future. <br>
<br>

<dd>I met several interesting people, new friends and old ones. I had a
great time, I saw the bell from the Andrea Doria and Bob trying</b> to
explain the DIR gear configuration to Steve and Janet. A very mixed show.<br>
<br>

<dd>One of the funniest things that happened was someone paged George Irvine
to come to the Dive Rite booth, that his transpac was ready. I thought I saw
several guys hanging around the booth after that. They had pizza stained Doria
shirts on and a huge jacket on with one hand in the pocket, it was hot at the
time. ;-)  <br>
<br>

<dd>I will have photos on my site of the show very soon...........<br>
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<dd>    <br>
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<dd>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to
get in the water"<font color="#0000FF">
<dd>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more 
<dd> Web Site  <a href="http://www.capt-jt.com/"
eudora="autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</a>
<dd>Email     captjt@mi*.co*</font>
</dl></u></blockquote><br>

<br>
"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in
the water"<br>
<font color="#0000FF"><u>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East
Coast & more <br>
 Web Site  <a href="http://www.capt-jt.com/"
eudora="autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com</a><a
href="http://www.capt-jt.com/" eudora="autourl">/<br>
</a>Email     captjt@mi*.co*<br>
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