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Poor, poor Johnny Tug Boat! Johnny Tug Boat, Johnny Tug Boat! Toot toot! Everybody's picking on him! That bad guy is telling the truth about him and he doesn't like it. Of course Miss Lindsey and the Lynnhaven Dive Center aren't trying to do anything. You boob, whenever an employer is trying to get rid of an employee they *never* do anything. As a matter of fact, they are usually real nice and give you all the rope you need to hang yourself. But what do I know. I have no experience in these matters. And of course, NO ONE at Lynnhaven has EVER suggested you were an embarrassment and you should keep it under control. Businesses like it when employees chase off their clientele. And NONE of your friends has EVER privately said that they were trying to get you do things properly and to quit the incessant bragging about dives that either anyone can do or only a moron WOULD do. Funny how you always blab about the truth but lie and get angry when someone tells the truth about you. I criticized you for attacking the widow of a deceased diver. I guess that I am lying because now you will blame the ghost writer. No good. The "I can't read and write" so I couldn't have done it defense won't fly because I know the ghost writer also reads to you. I called you a scumbag for doing that. That is not a lie. You are a scumbag for doing that. Don't believe it? Ask a non diving total stranger on the street to read your posts. I guaranteed they call you a scumbag. If recognizing a POS scumbag when I see one makes me a leader then I guess I must be one. But my reason is for the common good, not for my own benefit because I already know you are an asshole. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*> To: <joe@po*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Nic Gotto Inquest > Joe, I did not bother to answer a statement that is not true, it is waste > of time to do so. But in your little mind and height you think you've got > something. LDC and the Miss Lindsey are not trying to do anything. I will > be at BTS representing the shop and the boat this coming weekend, stop on > by and visit, I will be very polite. The emails you get (even if you really > do) are most likely from those I have exposed or removed from diving around > me or very close to it. Those that I have done that to are a risk to > themselves and those around them. This is why they chose to say things in > private so they do not expose themselves again, many have a huge fear of > this list and are very thin skin. I do not have such a weakness. > > As for apologizing to "Michelle", I will not say I am incapable of doing > it, just a little rusty.......as you clearly wish to be some kind of leader > you can show me how. Just apologize to me for all the untruthful things and > name calling you just did to me, it could do wonders. > > have a real nice day > > > > > > At 09:31 PM 3/20/03 -0500, joe@po*.co* wrote: > >JT, I never called you an asshole or dumb fuck. There is no need for me to > >do that because you do such a good job of showing it all by yourself. I > >merely implied you were an insensitive prick because of the response you > >gave to a grieving woman who was trying to do good. > > > >While I wish you no harm, I really don't care that you "ain't dead" nor do I > >care about whether or not you buddy with any RB divers. (BTW, I don't care > >that you are alive either.) > > > >As usual, you go off on a tangent and do not answer the questions asked so > >I'll ask again: > > > >Why is it that so many of the VB people, the Lynnhaven Dive Center and the > >Miss Lindsey are all trying to distance themselves from you? Why is it that > >every time I confront you on these lists I get barraged with private emails > >from VB people telling me what a scumbag you are? Why is it I get thank you > >emails from total strangers who say "I was going to dive with that guy but > >when I read your posts I started to think and realized what a moron he was"? > > > >Explain this to me. I know you can't because morons can't think. Like most > >self centered, egomaniacal, inadequate pricks, you are too wrapped up in > >yourself. You are a lowlife bottom feeder that thrives on the misfortunes > >of others and rejoices in diver deaths because in that feeble pea you call a > >brain you think by virtue of being alive you are superior. Well surprise! > >You are not! > >(You reached your apex when you got your job blowing the whisle on the Tug > >Boat...or was that the owner of the Tug Boat?) Either way...doesn't matter. > > > >I also suggested you make an appology to her. I repeat that suggestion. Do > >the decent thing and admit you were a rude, arrogant prick. Tell her you > >just can't help yourself because you have some VB form of Tourettes that > >causes you to talk like a moron. Or maybe you can say that you are > >delusional and envision yourself as some form of Noble Savage who believes > >he will make the world safe from his tug boat. > > > >Come to think of it, what does JT stand for? Johnny Tugboat? Let me > >guess..... You go to sleep at night wearing your Captains hat and hugging a > >whistle and a yo-yo while pulling your pud singing Johnny Tugboat! Johnny > >Tugboat! Toot toot! > > > >JT, you are a joke and a clown. Grow up and be a man! Stop trying to bully > >divers widows. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*> > >To: "Joe" <joe@po*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 4:30 PM > >Subject: Re: Nic Gotto Inquest > > > > > > > > > > Everyone of you out there who thinks I'm an asshole and some kind of dumb > > > fuck. Check these facts out. > > > You don't see me diving a RB do you and I ain't dead either am I. I > > > challenge anyone to prove I have even dived with a buddy who was on a RB > >of > > > any kind. On trips I organize there are only a select few I let on with a > > > RB and then I have certain rules they must agree to and they were getting > > > it done on OC before they got a RB. Most of the divers buying these damn > > > things can't dive to began with and hope it will make them something they > > > are not, what they are is a moron and an accident waiting to happen. Not > > > because the units are total pieces of shit, because the guys who die don't > > > know when to say NO, don't follow the rules, and couldn't get it done on > >OC. > > > > > > BTW way this is how you spell Lynnhaven........ > > > > > > and have a nice day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 05:15 PM 3/18/03 -0800, Joe wrote: > > > >JT, it is no wonder so many of the VB people, the Lyndhaven Dive Center > >and > > > >the Miss Lindsey are all trying to distance themselves from you. Your > > > >arrogance is only surpassed by your ignorance. Not everyone in this > >sport > > > >is 3rd grade educated and needs someone to read, write and think for > >them. > > > >Instead of worrying about what this woman who lost her husband was > >involved > > > >in you should hire someone to muzzle that ignorant mouth. > > > > > > > >This latest blurb of heartless stupidity tops them all. I am amazed that > > > >your VB Tech buddies, who seem to be a decent bunch, haven't come on here > > > >and pounded you into the dirt for attacking a woman selfless enough to > > > >re-live her horror speaking her mind in an effort to save others from the > > > >fate her husband suffered. You are out of line and owe her an apology. > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Michelle" <lisa3@ch*.co*> > > > >To: <captjt@mi*.co*> > > > >Cc: <lisa3@ch*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > > >Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:34 PM > > > >Subject: RE: Nic Gotto Inquest > > > > > > > > > > > > > How dare you try to blame Paul's death on me. > > > > > > > > > > Paul was highly inteligent and electronically and computer minded. He > >was > > > >an IT expert. He also was an adult used to making his own choices. > > > > > > > > > > We discussed on a number of occasions the problems he had had with his > > > >original unit. Numerous and often there seemed no obvious way to relate > >them > > > >to each other. He watched the handsets like a hawk and was meticulous in > >its > > > >mainanance. Unfortunately he also beleived that when he had a replacement > > > >unit - after much heated discussion with AP, this second unit appeared to > >be > > > >problem free and working as expected. I have the email he sent to martin > > > >Parker stating the unit now was working as expected - so it seemed. > > > > > He made a number of succesful dives on this second unit without > >problem so > > > >put his original problems down to having been suplied 'a lemon'. > > > > > > > > > > He had a great deal of respect for the unit and used it with great > > > >caution. Obviously this was not enough. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:26:57 -0500 Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> > >wrote: > > > > > Michelle, I have only one question for you................Why did you > >wait > > > > > until Paul died to get involved in what he was doing. quote "Paul had > >had > > > > > no end of problems with the unit".......so you knew something was not > > > >right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:04 PM 3/17/03 +0000, Michelle wrote: > > > > > >Hi George, > > > > > >You are so right. Paul thought he was helping with breakthroughs when > >he > > > > > >particepated in the early trimix dives on the unit. Everyone on the > > > > > >inspiration site knew what he was doing, he and a dozen or so others > > > > > >discussed how they were using mix on the unit. Not a word of caution > >from > > > > > >the manufacturers, they must have loved all the free research they > >were > > > > > >getting done by Paul and the others. There was even a chamber dive > > > >planned > > > > > >to further asess the performance of the unit on trimix. > > > > > >Then his accident and all of a sudded he was some kind of rogue and > >the > > > > > >statement was that he died because he was using trimix. > > > > > >The unit is sold to be used with trimix and heliox, how did the use > >of > > > > > >trimix kill him? We cannot see another diver related reason so lets > >blame > > > > > >it on trimix. > > > > > >Paul did not die because he was using trimix but this was the get out > > > > > >initially used. There are plenty of people using trimix on the unit > >now. > > > > > >Some very lucky people. > > > > > >Imagine, you have the full suport of your peers and are in freequent > > > > > >contact with the manufacturers detailing exactly what you are doing. > > > > > >Suddenly, you die whilst using one of these units and all that suport > > > > > >dissapears and you become some maveric doing things they would never > > > >condone. > > > > > >Paul had had no end of problems with the unit so was extremely > >cautious > > > > > >and meticulous whilst using it. Replacement scrubber lids and a > > > > > >replacement unit and numerous discussions with AP. > > > > > > > > > > > >How does it feel to be the widow? > > > > > >When the people your sole mate entrusted his life to abandon him and > >use > > > > > >him as a scapegoat? They have a quote published in a magazine stating > > > > > >their sympathy for you when you can see nothing has been done to > >rectify > > > > > >the situation, they do nothing and they act like nothing has hapened. > > > > > >When the daughter you bore after he died wishes on a star that she > >could > > > > > >see her father. > > > > > >When your entire life has been thrown up in the air and slowly falls > >back > > > > > >down to the ground shattering in to unrecoverable peices. > > > > > >When collegues at work dash in to a utility room when they see you > > > >walking > > > > > >towards them in a corridoor because they just don't know what to say > >to > > > > > >you. You feel like a leper. > > > > > >When people ask you 'hello, how are you?' ( normal, polite) you have > >to > > > > > >say 'fine thanks' ( normal, polite) but inside you want to screem at > >them > > > > > >for asking such a stupid question. How the hell do they think you > >feel - > > > > > >but it is not their fault, they don't know how much that simple > >question > > > > > >rips you apart. > > > > > >When you spend endless hours with his patents explaining, trying to > >make > > > > > >some sense of it. No parent expects to loose their child. > > > > > >When you are evicted and your home is reposessed because you are not > > > >named > > > > > >on the mortgage. The home you shared for almost a decade. > > > > > >When you sit every night in silence on the sofa desperate to hear his > > > >keys > > > > > >in the door as he comes home to you. > > > > > >You hear about 15 more people loosing their life on the same unit but > > > > > >still no questions are asked. > > > > > >And all the time the one you love is being used as a scapegoat, > >called an > > > > > >idiot by people who never met him, and every time you try to defend > >him > > > > > >you are pushed off as an hysterical woman. You look deeper and deeper > >and > > > > > >ask questions that no-one will answer. > > > > > >You have to listen to his reputation being ripped to shreds even > >though > > > > > >you know what people are saying is wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > >Shall I go on, or do you get the impression? > > > > > >Martin Parker has spoken to me twice. Once at Paul's inquest where he > > > >said > > > > > >'stuffy in there, isn't it' and once at Nic Gotto's inquest where he > > > >tried > > > > > >to say hello as if we were old friends, and asked was I well, in the > >most > > > > > >incredable upbeat maner, I was horrified and speachless. He seems to > >have > > > > > >absolutely no concept. > > > > > > > > > > > >As for the other things I can tell you about their performance, how > >about > > > > > >attempting to submit a graph ( of how long the loop could sustain > >life) > > > >at > > > > > >a public inquest, which was massively innacurate but if it had been > > > > > >believed could have explained the pathologists findings. The graph's > > > > > >innacuracy was exposed and there was no other way AP could explain > >the > > > > > >pathologist's findings. The pathalogical evidence that Paul had been > > > >alive > > > > > >for some time, probably hours, following a hypoxic event. > > > > > > > > > > > >On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:04:43 -0500 George Irvine <trey@my*.ne*> > >wrote: > > > > > >Lisa, this post of yours has brought out the usual suspects from the > > > >Buddy > > > > > >Inspiration cheering section, who are about the same caliber of > >mentality > > > >as > > > > > >you would expect to see at a cock fight. They are citing some web > >links > > > >that > > > > > >contain examples of stupidity that are beyond the pale, but they see > >them > > > >as > > > > > >fantastic accomplishments. > > > > > > > > > > > >Maybe you and the rest of the Buddy Inspiration widows can explain to > > > >these > > > > > >morons what it really means to have your husband killed by a piece of > > > >shit > > > > > >like Martin Parker, by the crap training out there, by the "every man > >for > > > > > >himself" mentality of the tough guy Brits who seem to feel these > >devices > > > > > >make them a real man, and by the very "accomplishments" ( read doing > > > >stupid > > > > > >things and getting away with it) that they are so proud of. > > > > > > > > > > > >The funny thing is that they want to attack me over your post. Your > > > >husband > > > > > >is dead along with countless others due to this piece of crap and the > > > > > >thinking that surrounds it, and we have some lame moron on here > >telling > > > >me > > > > > >how superior these people are and how screwed up GUE is ( now he has > > > >changed > > > > > >that to "DIR"). > > > > > > > > > > > >Maybe you can put some of the things you told me privately on here > >and > > > >save > > > > > >some lives. While the idiots are well recognized by most of us a > >idiots, > > > >you > > > > > >never know who you could prevent from suffering like you have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > >From: Lisa [mailto:lisa3@ch*.co*] > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 10, 3707 12:58 AM > > > > > >To: techdiver@aquanaut.com > > > > > >Subject: Nic Gotto Inquest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Cork City Coroner, Dr Myra Cullinane, last week recorded an open > >verdict > > > >at > > > > > >the conclusion of the inquest into the death of Nic Gotto, Union > >Hall, > > > > > >County Cork, who died in July 1998 whilst using the Buddy Inspiration > > > > > >Rebreather. The coroners court heard that Nic and some friends were > >due > > > >to > > > > > >dive to the Kowloon Bridge wreck, just a few miles south of Glandore > > > >harbour > > > > > >in County Cork, when the tradgy happened. Nic and his buddy entered > >the > > > > > >water as normal and proceeded to the bow of the wreck at 9m. All was > >well > > > >at > > > > > >thisstage, Nic was seen to have looked at his handsets and then > >signalled > > > >Ok > > > > > >to his buddy. He indicated a direction for the dive to continue and > >lead > > > >the > > > > > >way with his buddy following behind. The visibility was very poor > >that > > > >day > > > > > >and Nic's buddy lost sight of him for a few minutes only able to > >follow > > > >by > > > > > >using Nic's torch beam for direction. Within a few minutes the buddy > >came > > > > > >upon Nic lying on his back with his mouthpiece out and having what > > > >appeared > > > > > >to be a convulsion. His buddy immediately realised that Nic was in > > > >trouble > > > > > >and attempt to rescue him. In the rescue attempt Nic's buddy lost his > >own > > > > > >mouthpiece and weight belt and started to ascend. He made it to the > >9m > > > >mark > > > > > >and managed to alert another pair of divers that Nic was in trouble. > >One > > > >of > > > > > >the other divers quickly found Nic and assisted him to the surface > >where > > > >he > > > > > >was taken onboard the boat and CPR was administered for 45 minutes > >after > > > > > >which time the Air Sea Rescue helicopter winched him on board and > >flew > > > >him > > > > > >to hospital where he was pronounced dead on arrival. The court heard > >that > > > > > >Nic's rebreather was dropped during his rescue and was not recovered > >for > > > > > >some days. On inspection the Buddy Inspiration Rebreather was found > >to be > > > >in > > > > > >good working order and no alterations had been made to the kit. There > >was > > > >a > > > > > >reading on both guages. Both handsets, when opened, were found to be > > > >cracked > > > > > >and full of seawater. Nic had been seen to be having difficulties > > > > > >calibrating his equipment prior to getting on the boat. On the boat > >prior > > > >to > > > > > >the dive, Nic dismantled and cleaned and re assembled his equipment, > > > > > >breathed from the unit and prepared to enter the water. It was noted > >that > > > >no > > > > > >alarm was heard at anytime before, during and after Nic was brought > >to > > > >the > > > > > >surface. Mr Hogan, the pathologist at Cork University Hospital, said > >that > > > > > >Nic had suffered drowning after a metabolic event had occurred > >leading to > > > > > >him losing consciousness, he said that it might have Hyperoxia or > > > >Hycapnia. > > > > > >It was recorded that Nic had completed approx. 10 dives on the > >equipment. > > > >As > > > > > >no one had witnessed Nic changing the scrubber canister the > >manufactures, > > > >AP > > > > > >Valves, did make a submission that it might have been Hypercapnia > >that > > > >lead > > > > > >to Nic's demise. Nic's widow Rachel was able to tell the court that > >of > > > >two > > > > > >20kg drums of sofnalime at her house over half of one is gone. The > > > >coroner > > > > > >seemed satisfied that this suggested that Nic had replaced the scruba > > > > > >contents. At the end of three days the Jury were directed to return > >one > > > >of > > > > > >three possible verdicts, accidental death, death by misadventure and > >open > > > > > >verdict. They returned the latter. > > > > > > > > > > > >During questioning, a witness who initially reported that Nic told > >her > > > >the > > > > > >scrubber could last 10 hours, confirmed this 10 hours could well have > > > > > >related to the O2 cylinder duration and not the scrubber. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My condolencies to Rachel, Nic's wife, and his three daughters, two > >who > > > >are > > > > > >teenagers and one little girl who has never seen her father. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > >`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > >`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get > >in > > > >the > > > > > water" > > > > > Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more > > > > > Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ > > > > > Email captjt@mi*.co* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > >`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > > "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in > >the > > > water" > > > Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more > > > Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ > > > Email captjt@mi*.co* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the > water" > Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more > Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ > Email captjt@mi*.co* > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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