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From: "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
To: "Bill" <bill.johnstone@te*.ne*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Inspirational
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 07:31:49 -0500
Bill, I am not going to respond to every "rebuttal" of reality out of you
clowns, and I am not going to be "civil" with idiots who have the body count
you people have racked up. You are all so desperate to prove something, and
it is painfully clear or you would not be so upset about DIR, GUE, WKPP and
anything else that represents real diving professionalism. Again , ask your
"experts" why they can't do what we do, and stop kidding yourself about who
can and can not bounce dive.

You people are selling a pipedream and killing in the process. We are and
have always produced real results in all aspects of diving that everyone can
use. You produce nothing more than bungee jumps, bad examples and death.

The fact is you are so stupid it hurts. You proudly pump out a link where in
the first two paragraphs we see some stroke tell how he left his buddy at
500 feet. This is the kind of idiocy that you represent, and you and your
pals are too stupid to understand it and too stupid to learn from the
constant string of mistakes and accidents emanating from the mindset that
characterizes the thinking you and your friends display.

I will not discuss what "deep diving" any of us have done or know about,
nor do I follow what DIR divers do in that regard any more than I follow the
rest of the stupidity that your types do unless you happen to make an issue
of it as in this case.

I will also tell you that if anyone who claims to be "DIR" is out bragging
about diving to 500 feet, they are not DIR in the first place, and when they
do have a real good reason to dive to these kinds of depths, I certainly
hope they do it properly and not the way you idiots keep doing it. You
yourself obviously don't do anything but run your mouth, or you would not be
so stupid as to hold up this as anything but a power of bad example.

Again, Bill, what does this have to do with DIR or GUE? You never answered
that , you hypocrite, and "civil" is hardly the word for your attacks on the
best thing ( GUE ) that has ever happened to diving, especially coming from
the worst thing that has ever happened to diving.

I don't need to say anything more about the Buddy Inspiration. You guys do
that yourselves on a regular basis, and I don't need to say any more about
the definition of the term "stroke", since you guys have got that one down
perfectly, and continue to prove it and put it in writing.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill [mailto:bill.johnstone@te*.ne*]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 10:32 AM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Inspirational



They may be bounce dives to you, but show me where ANY of your DIR boys and
girls have explored >500'+?  Inspiration divers have raised the bar so high
IN THE OCEAN that it can't be touched.

Watch http://www.deepimage.co.uk/home_pages/home.html this summer for
breathtaking photography on a MASSIVE deep diving project.

I take it, your silence on the rebuttal {
http://www.ukrs.org.uk/ukdiver/inspiration.html } of your original article
for Inner Realm implies you agree with the technical arguments?

Lets keep it civil and save the name calling for the playground.

Bill.

-------Original Message-------

From: George Irvine
Date: Friday, March 14, 2003 12:30:58 PM
To: Bill; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Inspirational

Bill, anyone can bounce dive with virtually anything and get away with it,
at least some of the time. Tell me what has been done with one of these
things that even approximates a fraction of what we do? If you want to
mention "people who know what they are talking about", then perhaps you
might find one in that crowd to explain to you why nobody can do it.
Bill
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