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Hi,
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This is what I'm using as inside layer for my thinsulate undergarment =
<http://www.dupont.com/coolmax/> http://www.dupont.com/coolmax/ . =
Shouldnt be a problem to buy from DuPont in NZ.
For outer shell, you must be able to find thousands of usable materials =
around. Just take a look.
=20
The key to a working undergarment from such stiff material as =
thinsulate, is to have a good cut. Take a close look on cut of jackets =
used for climbing. Then know how to do it correctly. Even DUI could =
learn something.
=20
Best regards
Jozef Gliviak
Slovakia
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul - Inner Realm [mailto:Paul@in*.co*.nz*]
Sent: 23. novembra 2002 1:00
To: dis-uk@ya*.co*
Cc: Quest (GUE QUEST); TECHDIVER; DIR_UK
Subject: RE: [DIS-UK] Undersuits
Hey Guys,
I have orderd the 400G bolts of Thinsulate from 3M NZ , =
which take 3 months to arrive from the states.
=20
The actual patterns are also sorted as is the manufacturing process , =
but the other materials needed ;as in a quality waterproof/breathable =
exterior nylob shell and moisture wicking interior lining that wont =
allow thinsulate fibre migration are still being sourced...and proving =
difficult to find here.
=20
I could really do with some leads upon these other materials from anyone =
with any known manufacturers/suppliers I may try... if anyone has any =
clues I would be most appreciative? , as the local suppliers are so =
"backward' even the 3M rep had never seen 400g before and had to order =
min a sample especially ;-)
=20
These MTM suits will be a great price compared to DUI and far better =
quality of design/maunfacture.
=20
Anyone ever wondered why there wasnt a buttonhole pee valve hose opening =
integrated into them...? me too :-) no more =
half opened zips boys!=20
I am also working with an idea of velcro tabs or similar on the booties =
to stop the legs riding up upon donning the sui as the ankle elastic =
worn in the arch causes foot cramp in some people.
=20
=20
There will be quite a few modifications for diver comfort, ideas and =
feedback, as to what you (fellow divers) feel would improve the quality =
of your comfort is more than welcome...
=20
I have also been very focussed upon the Innerrealm 300 bar tank =
va/ve/manifold and Reg protectors I have designed. They are almost ready =
,having been delayed by the Machine shop.
They are VERY nice and I will advise as soon as I get pictures upon the =
site for you to take a look so I can take orders for supply.
=20
Paul Berry - Director
Inner Realm
The Measure Of Excellence In DIR Technical Diving Systems=20
www.innerrealm.co.nz
DIR-NZ=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cooper [mailto:bob@bo*.fs*.co*.uk*]=20
Sent: Saturday, 23 November 2002 10:16 a.m.
To: dis-uk@ya*.co*
Subject: Re: [DIS-UK] Undersuits
"The new Inner Realm "Couture" range of 400G Type B thinsulate fully =
made to
measure undergarments are currently being designed and will be ready for
release early in 2003. These sensational garments will exceed your every
expectation of quality and easily be the finest available worldwide!"
http://www.innerrealm.co.nz/pricing.asp
> Which reminds me .. someone was threatening to import that 3M
> stuff into some antipodean location and manufacture M2M
> undersuits ?
>
> I wonder if there are any news/updates on that ?
DIS-UK: This list is dedicated to Diving It Simple and Safe. The =
material on this list is private to the list members. Do not cross post =
it without permission of the author. To Post a message, send it to: =
dis-uk@eG*.co*
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms =
<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> of Service.=20
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color=3D#0000ff>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
size=3D2><SPAN=20
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V>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D951463407-25112002>This is what I'm using as inside layer for my =
thinsulate undergarment </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><A=20
href=3D"http://www.dupont.com/coolmax/"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>http://www.dupont.com/coolmax/</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
size=3D2> <SPAN class=3D951463407-25112002>. Shouldnt be a problem =
to buy from=20
DuPont in NZ.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D951463407-25112002>For outer shell, you must be able to find =
thousands=20
of usable materials around. Just take a=20
look.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D951463407-25112002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DI
V>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D951463407-25112002>The key to a working undergarment from such =
stiff=20
material as thinsulate, is to have a good cut. Take a close look =
on cut of=20
jackets used for climbing. Then know how to do it correctly. Even DUI =
could=20
learn something.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D951463407-25112002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DI
V>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D951463407-25112002>Best =
regards</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D951463407-25112002> Jozef =
Gliviak</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D951463407-25112002> Slovakia</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT
></DI=
V>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Paul - Inner
Realm =
[mailto:Paul@in*.co*.nz*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 23. novembra 2002=20
1:00<BR><B>To:</B> dis-uk@ya*.co*<BR><B>Cc:</B> Quest (GUE =
QUEST);=20
TECHDIVER; DIR_UK<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [DIS-UK]=20
Undersuits<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hey=20
Guys,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs=
p; =20
I have orderd the 400G bolts of Thinsulate from 3M NZ , which take 3 =
months to=20
arrive from the states.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>The=20
actual patterns are also sorted as is the manufacturing process , but=20
the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT
face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2> other materials needed ;as in a quality =
waterproof/breathable=20
exterior nylob shell and moisture wicking interior lining that wont =
allow=20
thinsulate fibre migration are still being sourced...and proving =
difficult to find here.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
could really do with some leads upon these other materials from anyone =
with=20
any known manufacturers/suppliers I may try... if anyone has any =
clues I=20
would be most appreciative? , as the local suppliers are so =
"backward'=20
even the 3M rep had never seen 400g before and had to order min a =
sample=20
especially ;-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>These MTM suits will be a great price compared to DUI and far =
better=20
quality of design/maunfacture.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Anyone ever wondered why there wasnt a buttonhole pee valve =
hose=20
opening integrated=20
=
into them...? &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; =20
me too :-) no more half opened zips boys! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I am=20
also working with an idea of velcro tabs or similar on the =
booties=20
to stop the legs riding up upon donning the sui as the ankle elastic =
worn in=20
the arch causes foot cramp in some people.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>There will be quite a few modifications for diver comfort, =
ideas and=20
feedback, as to what you (fellow divers) feel would improve the =
quality=20
of your comfort is more than welcome...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
have also been very focussed upon the Innerrealm 300 bar tank =
va/ve/manifold=20
and Reg protectors I have designed. They are almost ready =
,having=20
been delayed by the Machine shop.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>They=20
are VERY nice and I will advise as soon as I get pictures upon the =
site for=20
you to take a look so I can take orders for =
supply.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D189594223-22112002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Paul =
Berry -=20
Director</FONT><FONT face=3DArial><BR></FONT><FONT
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>Inner Realm</FONT><BR><B></B><B><FONT
face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D1>The Measure Of Excellence In DIR Technical Diving=20
Systems</FONT></B><FONT face=3DArial>
</FONT></SPAN><BR><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-us><B><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>www.innerrealm.co.nz</FONT></B><BR><B></B><B></B>&
lt;B><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D1>DIR-NZ</FONT></B><FONT face=3DArial>=20
</FONT></SPAN></P></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
Bob Cooper=20
[mailto:bob@bo*.fs*.co*.uk*] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 23 =
November=20
2002 10:16 a.m.<BR><B>To:</B> =
dis-uk@ya*.co*<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
[DIS-UK] Undersuits<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><TT>"The new Inner
Realm =
"Couture"=20
range of 400G Type B thinsulate fully made to<BR>measure =
undergarments are=20
currently being designed and will be ready for<BR>release early in =
2003.=20
These sensational garments will exceed your every<BR>expectation of =
quality=20
and easily be the finest available worldwide!"<BR><BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.innerrealm.co.nz/pricing.asp">http://www.innerrealm.co=
.nz/pricing.asp</A><BR><BR>>=20
Which reminds me .. someone was threatening to import that =
3M<BR>> stuff=20
into some antipodean location and manufacture M2M<BR>> undersuits =
?<BR>><BR>> I wonder if there are any news/updates on that=20
?<BR><BR><BR></TT><BR><TT>DIS-UK: This list is dedicated
to Diving =
It Simple=20
and Safe. The material on this list is private to the list members. =
Do not=20
cross post it without permission of the author. To Post a message, =
send it=20
to: dis-uk@eG*.co*<BR><BR><BR></TT><BR><BR><TT>Your
use of =
Yahoo! Groups=20
is subject to the <A =
href=3D"http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms=20
of Service</A>.</TT>
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