This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C28664.01569BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 You need to grow up and start taking responsibility for your = irresponsible statements. There is nothing humorous about pressuring = people into doing something they might not be comfortable with. Oh, and while I'm at it, I know that you are really 22 years old and = 6'3". You just look worn out and short for your height. Joe "Your a lair, fries don't come with that." - Capt. JT Barker ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Capt JT=20 To: joe@po*.co* ; David B. Widen=20 Cc: Vbtech ; Techdiver ; fltechdiver@mikey.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:14 AM Subject: Re: Lake Jocassee Project At 08:21 AM 11/7/02 -0500, joe@po*.co* wrote: >>>> Saying you can do a 300ft dive in cold water in very low vis = and >>>>actually doing it are 2 different things. The first only takes = your >>>>mouth, the second takes much more.=20 The quote above was meant for guys like you and the others who often = say '"anybody can do that". >>>>As the date came within a week the excuses started rolling in, I = even >>>>heard one guy say his wife was planning on getting pregnant = that >>>>weekend and he wanted to be there when it happened, so he = >>>>couldn't make the dive. (not really true, but sounds good don't it)=20 That was meant as humor..... something old short guys don't have, they = spend all their lives breathing the air next to normal peoples = asshole.....they have a rough life. You ever thought of getting platform = shoes?=20 >>>>With the group down to 7 we headed to the lake, one guy said his = >>>>engine blew up, so we were down to 6 at dive time.=20 This is what really happened........ Give it a rest Joe, you don't have a clue. Joe =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David B. Widen=20 To: joe@po*.co*=20 Cc: Capt JT Barker ; Vbtech ; Techdiver=20 Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:31 AM=20 Subject: RE: Lake Jocassee Project Jo=20 =20 I am one of the people that would normally have been on the = trip. The primary reason (whether it is your business or not) that I was = not has to do with a couple of projects I am working on for my Company. = It is called available time and project due dates. It is not what you = are alluding to.=20 =20 David=20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net = [mailto:FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net] On Behalf Of joe@po*.co*=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:22 PM=20 To: vbtech@ci*.co*; Capt JT=20 Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com; FLTechDiver@mikey.net=20 Subject: Re: Lake Jocassee Project=20 =20 I do not doubt the veracity of the report. You couldn't have = made that up. I am talking about your ridicule of those whose survival = instincts prompted them to back out. I find that offensive because it = is a good way to push people into getting themselves killed for fear of = being criticized.=20 =20 =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Capt JT=20 To: Joe ; vbtech@ci*.co*=20 Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com ; FLTechDiver@mikey.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:46 PM=20 Subject: Re: Lake Jocassee Project=20 =20 Make what you want of it, everyone who was there and those who = were to go but didn't know the answers. Not one of them will post = anything different than what I say. Every report on dives I make is sent = to those on the trip and they have the option to make changes if it is = true or I am mistaken before I post it.=20 At 07:25 PM 11/6/02 -0800, Joe wrote:=20 JT:=20 =20 I love the way you try to make fun of the people that had more = sense than to dive with you, whether the reason was that the dive was = beyond their abilities and experience or that they just were using good = judgment and abiding by rules no. 1 and 2.=20 =20 You make the dive sound like a dare. What's up with that?=20 =20 Best.=20 =20 Joe=20 =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Capt JT=20 To: vbtech@ci*.co*=20 Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com ; FLTechDiver@mikey.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:19 AM=20 Subject: Lake Jocassee Project Lake Jocassee is a dammed valley with depths at times to 350ft. = After last years trip to the lake ( read about it here = http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/display?51280,from = ) a new project was born. When the valley was flooded around 1968 = several structures were left and is the bases for many rumors as to what = is still there and who left what. With forest, roads, peaks, and who = really knows what is down there, it was a challenge to find a starting = point to began a search for some of these rumored things. Jackie Smith who has many dives to the lake had started to = follow a road that would lead him to a bridge, sound easy? Once you add = in the depth of 300ft and distance one might have to swim while poking a = rod down through the muck to feel for the road you get the feeling this = will take some time. =20 Capt Bill Routh owner of "Off The Wall Dive Charters"( = www.offthewalldiving.com ) had done 3 years of interviews and archives = of old aerial soil assay pictures from the 60's. After endless hrs = motoring around looking Bill contacted friends with a Side Scan Sonar , = Jonathan Royer & Danelle Haley with Deep Seekers to help map the bottom. = After a few days an area was located that showed what could be a bridge = with a creek/river, the bridge was over what used to be White Water = River that ran adjacent to a camp. An old photograph taken from someone = standing on the bridge revealed a place called "Camp Jocassee". Camp = Jocassee established in 1922 for girls ran until late 60's the summer = before the DAM, it had a main building and residence for the camp owners = and several concrete block cabins for the campers.The entrance to the = camp was lined with stone walls with pillars on each side of a white = picket fence gate as shown in the picture taken from the bridge looking = toward the camp entrance.=20 I asked Jackie if I could help and the project was born. Jackie = arranged for the charter with Capt Bill Routh owner of "Off The Wall = Dive Charters"( www.offthewalldiving.com ) and I assembled the group, I = had at first limited it to 8 divers. Knowing that many would back out = once the time came near I allowed 12 to commit. Saying you can do a = 300ft dive in cold water in very low vis and actually doing it are 2 = different things. The first only takes your mouth, the second takes much = more.=20 As the date came within a week the excuses started rolling in, I = even heard one guy say his wife was planning on getting pregnant that = weekend and he wanted to be there when it happened, so he couldn't make = the dive. (not really true, but sounds good don't it)=20 With the group down to 7 we headed to the lake, one guy said his = engine blew up, so we were down to 6 at dive time.=20 Capt. Bill with Samantha Swenson as crew (who did a great job) = dropped a shot line in what was believed to be the old creek bed, the = level of the lake was low and the depth here was only 315ft, some trees = remained on each side of the creek and we believed that we could scooter = it until we found the bridge and a lift bag would be deployed and = secured to the bridge, then a permanent line could then be attached to = it.=20 Tom Sawicki, Bill Ripley and myself were tasked for this and = geared up for the dive. The air temp had warmed up from the morning cool = of 33, to a cool of around 43. We entered the water carrying all gas = needed for the dive, we were diving gas mixes and tables recommended by = Tom, I am not allowed to disclose the mixes and tables. The water temp = was 65 on top down to 80ft and did a drop to 46 degrees, vis went from = 20ft down to 5ft around 200ft. Tom stopped at 225ft and called the dive = during the descent, I could not understand why. Everyone returned Ok = signs back to me and yet Tom still was calling the dive, I could not = understand why. I asked Tom why and on his wet notes he wrote "VIS", I = was pissed........ It is a standing rule that if one calls the dive we = must all surface, but that did not mean I had to be happy about it. At = one point I knocked my own mask off while moving stages around because I = was so pissed. Once on the boat he explained that scootering in that low = vis was not doable and we were getting to far apart for such low vis, he = was correct, but we did not know it was that bad on the bottom yet, but = later we would find he was right about that and was only concerned with = every ones safety.=20 The plan was then changed and Jackie Smith, Charlie Johnson, and = Rodney King (not that Rodney King) would go down another line that was = dropped and hoped it had hooked the bridge(if it was there) or near it, = hopefully not in the trees. We watched as they went down and could see = they were not leaving the line. They surfaced to report that the hook = had in fact snagged the bridge, but vis was less than 5ft.=20 With the first day gone, plans were made for the second day. = Tom, Bill, Rodney, and myself would go down the line we left buoyed to = the bridge,Tom would run a line from the bridge in a direction we = believed the camp to be, Rodney would video, Bill and myself would stay = near them and survey.=20 Once at the top of the bridge which was at 289ft I waited for = everyone to show up, Rodney videoed while Tom and I secured the line to = the bridge that would be run. Once everyone made the move away from the = bridge I was at the rear and checked my gas(I was the only one using the = same tanks from the first dive and they were less than full when we = started, I had gave my second set of doubles to Tom to use). I had = reached my turn pressure and returned to the bridge, vis was so bad they = were not aware of this and I chose to remain close to the up line and = just inspect the bridge to conserve gas. They returned with excitement = in their eyes having run the line to a white picket fence that surrounds = the camp which has stone pillars at the entrance and can be seen in the = video, the reel was left on the fence for who ever goes next to run the = line into the camp house which should be just inside.=20 Jackie and Charlie were tasked to take down a permanent line and = chain it into the bridge that would be left for future dives, a keg was = placed on the line 20ft under the surface and GPS coordinates were = taken.=20 I will show the video at the VBtech meeting on Thursday and = place photos on my site as soon as I can.=20 Hope you have enjoyed this report=20 Capt JT=20 =20 "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to = get in the water"=20 Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more=20 Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/=20 Email captjt@mi*.co*=20 "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to = get in the water"=20 Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more=20 Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/=20 Email captjt@mi*.co*=20 "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get = in the water" Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more=20 Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ Email captjt@mi*.co* ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C28664.01569BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You need to grow up and start taking = responsibility=20 for your irresponsible statements. There is nothing humorous about = pressuring people into doing something they might not be comfortable=20 with.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh, and while I'm at it, I know that = you are really=20 22 years old and 6'3". You just look worn out and short for = your=20 height.<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Joe</DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>"Your a lair, fries don't come with=20 that."<BR> &nb= sp; &nbs= p; =20 - Capt. JT Barker</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dcaptjt@mi*.co* = href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">Capt JT</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Djoe@po*.co*=20 href=3D"mailto:joe@po*.co*">joe@polarbearinc.com</A> ; <A=20 title=3Ddwiden@co*.ne* href=3D"mailto:dwiden@co*.ne*">David B. = Widen</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A = title=3Dvbtech@ci*.co*=20 href=3D"mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*">Vbtech</A> ; <A=20 title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20 href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">Techdiver</A> ; <A=20 title=3Dfltechdiver@mikey.net=20 href=3D"mailto:fltechdiver@mikey.net">fltechdiver@mikey.net</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 07, = 2002 6:14=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Lake Jocassee = Project</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>At 08:21 AM 11/7/02 -0500, <A=20 href=3D"mailto:joe@po*.co*">joe@polarbearinc.com</A>=20 wrote:<BR><BR><FONT color=3D#ff0000> <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">>>>> Saying you can do = a 300ft=20 dive in cold water in very low vis and >>>>actually = doing it are=20 2 different things. The first only takes your >>>>mouth, = the=20 second takes much more. </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>The quote above was = meant for=20 guys like you and the others who often say '"anybody can do=20 that".<BR><BR><FONT color=3D#ff0000> <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">>>>>As the date came = within a=20 week the excuses started rolling in, I even >>>>heard = one guy=20 say his wife was planning on getting pregnant that = >>>>weekend=20 and he wanted to be there when it happened, so he = >>>>couldn't=20 make the dive. (not really true, but sounds good don't it)=20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That was meant as humor..... something old = short guys=20 don't have, they spend all their lives breathing the air next to = normal=20 peoples asshole.....they have a rough life. You ever thought of = getting=20 platform shoes? <BR><BR><FONT color=3D#ff0000> <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">>>>>With the group = down to 7 we=20 headed to the lake, one guy said his >>>>engine blew up, = so we=20 were down to 6 at dive time. </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>This is what = really=20 happened........<BR>Give it a rest Joe, you don't have a = clue.<BR><BR><FONT=20 face=3Darial size=3D2> <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">Joe</FONT><BR><FONT=20 color=3D#ff0000> </FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DL> <DD>----- Original Message -----=20 <DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:dwiden@co*.ne*">David B. = Widen</A>=20 <DD>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:joe@po*.co*">joe@polarbearinc.com</A>=20 <DD>Cc:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">Capt JT = Barker</A> ;=20 <A href=3D"mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*">Vbtech</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">Techdiver</A>=20 <DD>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:31 AM=20 <DD>Subject:</B> RE: Lake Jocassee Project<BR><BR><FONT = face=3Darial=20 color=3D#000080 size=3D2> <DD>Jo</FONT>=20 <DD>=20 <DD>I am one of the people that would normally have been on the = trip.=20 The primary reason (whether it is your business or not) that I = was not=20 has to do with a couple of projects I am working on for my = Company. It=20 is called available time and project due dates. It is not what = you are=20 alluding to.=20 <DD>=20 <DD>David<FONT face=3Dtahoma size=3D2>=20 <DD>-----Original Message-----=20 <DD>From:</B> <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net">FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net</= A>=20 [<A href=3D"mailto:FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net"=20 eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net</A>] On = Behalf Of=20 </B><A = href=3D"mailto:joe@po*.co*">joe@polarbearinc.com</A>=20 <DD>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:22 PM=20 <DD>To:</B> <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*">vbtech@cisatlantic.com</A>; Capt = JT=20 <DD>Cc:</B> <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:FLTechDiver@mikey.net">FLTechDiver@mikey.net</A>=20 <DD>Subject:</B> Re: Lake Jocassee Project</FONT><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">=20 <DD></FONT><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20 <DD>I do not doubt the veracity of the report. You = couldn't have=20 made that up. I am talking about your ridicule of those = whose=20 survival instincts prompted them to back out. I find that=20 offensive because it is a good way to push people into getting=20 themselves killed for fear of being criticized.</FONT><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">=20 <DD></FONT>=20 <DD>=20 <DD>=20 <DD>----- Original Message ----- <FONT face=3Darial size=3D2> <DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">Capt = JT</A> </FONT> <DD>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:joe@po*.co*">Joe</A> ; <A = = href=3D"mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*">vbtech@cisatlantic.com</A>=20 <DD>Cc:</B> <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:FLTechDiver@mikey.net">FLTechDiver@mikey.net</A>=20 <DD>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:46 PM=20 <DD>Subject:</B> Re: Lake Jocassee Project<FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">=20 <DD></FONT>=20 <DD>Make what you want of it, everyone who was there and those = who were=20 to go but didn't know the answers. Not one of them will post = anything=20 different than what I say. Every report on dives I make is sent = to those=20 on the trip and they have the option to make changes if it is = true or I=20 am mistaken before I post it. <BR><BR> <DD> At 07:25 PM 11/6/02 -0800, Joe wrote:<FONT = face=3Darial size=3D2>=20 <DD>JT:</FONT>=20 <DD><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20 <DD>I love the way you try to make fun of the people that had = more sense=20 than to dive with you, whether the reason was that the dive was = beyond=20 their abilities and experience or that they just were using good = judgment and abiding by rules no. 1 and 2.</FONT>=20 <DD><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20 <DD>You make the dive sound like a dare. What's up with=20 that?</FONT>=20 <DD><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20 <DD>Best.</FONT>=20 <DD><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20 <DD>Joe</FONT>=20 <DD>=20 <DD>=20 <DD>----- Original Message ----- <BR><BR><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"> <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">Capt JT</A> = </FONT> <DD>To: <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*">vbtech@cisatlantic.com</A>=20 <DD>Cc: <A=20 = href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> ; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:FLTechDiver@mikey.net">FLTechDiver@mikey.net</A>=20 <DD>Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:19 AM <BR><BR><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"> <DD>Subject: </FONT>Lake Jocassee Project<BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"> <DD>Lake</FONT> Jocassee is a dammed valley with depths at times = to=20 350ft. After last years trip to the lake ( read about it here <A = = href=3D"http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/display?5128= 0,from"=20 = eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/d= isplay?51280,from</A>=20 ) a new project was born. When the valley was flooded around = 1968=20 several structures were left and is the bases for many rumors as = to what=20 is still there and who left what. With forest, roads, peaks, and = who=20 really knows what is down there, it was a challenge to find a = starting=20 point to began a search for some of these rumored = things.<BR><BR><FONT=20 face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"> <DD>Jackie Smith who has many dives to the lake had started to = follow a=20 road that would lead him to a bridge, sound easy? Once you add = in the=20 depth of 300ft and distance one might have to swim while poking = a rod=20 down through the muck to feel for the road you get the feeling = this will=20 take some time. </FONT> <DD>Capt Bill Routh owner of "Off The Wall Dive Charters"( <A=20 href=3D"http://www.offthewalldiving.com/"=20 eudora=3D"autourl">www.offthewalldiving.com</A> ) had done = 3 years=20 of interviews and archives of old aerial soil assay pictures = from the=20 60's. After endless hrs motoring around looking Bill contacted = friends=20 with a Side Scan Sonar , Jonathan Royer & Danelle Haley with = Deep=20 Seekers to help map the bottom. After a few days an area was = located=20 that showed what could be a bridge with a creek/river, the = bridge was=20 over what used to be White Water River that ran adjacent to a = camp. An=20 old photograph taken from someone standing on the bridge = revealed a=20 place called "Camp Jocassee". Camp Jocassee established in 1922 = for=20 girls ran until late 60's the summer before the DAM, it had a = main=20 building and residence for the camp owners and several concrete = block=20 cabins for the campers.The entrance to the camp was lined with = stone=20 walls with pillars on each side of a white picket fence gate as = shown in=20 the picture taken from the bridge looking toward the camp = entrance.=20 <BR><BR><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"> <DD>I asked Jackie if I could help and the project was born. = Jackie=20 arranged for the charter with Capt Bill Routh owner of "Off The = Wall=20 Dive Charters"( <A href=3D"http://www.offthewalldiving.com/"=20 eudora=3D"autourl">www.offthewalldiving.com</A> ) and I = assembled=20 the group, I had at first limited it to 8 divers. Knowing that = many=20 would back out once the time came near I allowed 12 to commit. = Saying=20 you can do a 300ft dive in cold water in very low vis and = actually doing=20 it are 2 different things. The first only takes your mouth, the = second=20 takes much more. </FONT> <DD>As the date came within a week the excuses started rolling = in, I=20 even heard one guy say his wife was planning on getting pregnant = that=20 weekend and he wanted to be there when it happened, so he = couldn't make=20 the dive. (not really true, but sounds good don't it)=20 <DD>With the group down to 7 we headed to the lake, one guy said = his=20 engine blew up, so we were down to 6 at dive time.=20 <DD>Capt. Bill with Samantha Swenson as crew (who did a great = job)=20 dropped a shot line in what was believed to be the old creek = bed, the=20 level of the lake was low and the depth here was only 315ft, = some trees=20 remained on each side of the creek and we believed that we could = scooter=20 it until we found the bridge and a lift bag would be deployed = and=20 secured to the bridge, then a permanent line could then be = attached to=20 it.=20 <DD>Tom Sawicki, Bill Ripley and myself were tasked for this and = geared=20 up for the dive. The air temp had warmed up from the morning = cool of 33,=20 to a cool of around 43. We entered the water carrying all gas = needed for=20 the dive, we were diving gas mixes and tables recommended by = Tom, I am=20 not allowed to disclose the mixes and tables. The water temp was = 65 on=20 top down to 80ft and did a drop to 46 degrees, vis went from = 20ft down=20 to 5ft around 200ft. Tom stopped at 225ft and called the dive = during the=20 descent, I could not understand why. Everyone returned Ok signs = back to=20 me and yet Tom still was calling the dive, I could not = understand why. I=20 asked Tom why and on his wet notes he wrote "VIS", I was = pissed........=20 It is a standing rule that if one calls the dive we must all = surface,=20 but that did not mean I had to be happy about it. At one point I = knocked=20 my own mask off while moving stages around because I was so = pissed. Once=20 on the boat he explained that scootering in that low vis was not = doable=20 and we were getting to far apart for such low vis, he was = correct, but=20 we did not know it was that bad on the bottom yet, but later we = would=20 find he was right about that and was only concerned with every = ones=20 safety.=20 <DD>The plan was then changed and Jackie Smith, Charlie Johnson, = and=20 Rodney King (not that Rodney King) would go down another line = that was=20 dropped and hoped it had hooked the bridge(if it was there) or = near it,=20 hopefully not in the trees. We watched as they went down and = could see=20 they were not leaving the line. They surfaced to report that the = hook=20 had in fact snagged the bridge, but vis was less than 5ft.=20 <DD>With the first day gone, plans were made for the second day. = Tom,=20 Bill, Rodney, and myself would go down the line we left buoyed = to the=20 bridge,Tom would run a line from the bridge in a direction we = believed=20 the camp to be, Rodney would video, Bill and myself would stay = near them=20 and survey.=20 <DD>Once at the top of the bridge which was at 289ft I waited = for=20 everyone to show up, Rodney videoed while Tom and I secured the = line to=20 the bridge that would be run. Once everyone made the move away = from the=20 bridge I was at the rear and checked my gas(I was the only one = using the=20 same tanks from the first dive and they were less than full when = we=20 started, I had gave my second set of doubles to Tom to use). I = had=20 reached my turn pressure and returned to the bridge, vis was so = bad they=20 were not aware of this and I chose to remain close to the up = line and=20 just inspect the bridge to conserve gas. They returned with = excitement=20 in their eyes having run the line to a white picket fence that = surrounds=20 the camp which has stone pillars at the entrance and can be seen = in the=20 video, the reel was left on the fence for who ever goes next to = run the=20 line into the camp house which should be just inside.=20 <DD>Jackie and Charlie were tasked to take down a permanent line = and=20 chain it into the bridge that would be left for future dives, a = keg was=20 placed on the line 20ft under the surface and GPS coordinates = were=20 taken.=20 <DD>I will show the video at the VBtech meeting on Thursday and = place=20 photos on my site as soon as I can.=20 <DD>Hope you have enjoyed this report=20 <DD>Capt JT <BR><BR><BR><BR> <DD> <BR><BR><BR><BR> <DD>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you = have to get=20 in the water"<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman, Times" = color=3D#0000ff> </FONT> <DD>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & = more=20 <DD> Web Site <A href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/"=20 eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</A>=20 <DD>Email captjt@mi*.co*=20 <BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman, Times"> <DD>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you = have to get=20 in the water"</FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman, Times" = color=3D#0000ff>=20 <DD>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & = more=20 <DD> Web Site <A href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/"=20 eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</A>=20 <DD>Email = captjt@mi*.co*</FONT></U>=20 </DD></DL></U></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>"You can't learn to dive on the = net,=20 sooner or later you have to get in the water"<BR><FONT = color=3D#0000ff><U>Your=20 Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more = <BR> Web=20 Site <A href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/"=20 eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com</A><A = href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/"=20 eudora=3D"autourl">/<BR></A>Email =20 = captjt@mi*.co*<BR><BR></FONT></U></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>< ;/BODY>= </HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C28664.01569BE0-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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