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From: "Joe" <joe@po*.co*>
To: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Lake Jocassee Project
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:45:59 -0800
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You need to grow up and start taking responsibility for your =
irresponsible statements.  There is nothing humorous about pressuring =
people into doing something they might not be comfortable with.

Oh, and while I'm at it, I know that you are really 22 years old and =
6'3".  You just look worn out and short for your height.

Joe

"Your a lair, fries don't come with that."
                                  - Capt. JT Barker
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Capt JT=20
  To: joe@po*.co* ; David B. Widen=20
  Cc: Vbtech ; Techdiver ; fltechdiver@mikey.net=20
  Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 6:14 AM
  Subject: Re: Lake Jocassee Project


  At 08:21 AM 11/7/02 -0500, joe@po*.co* wrote:


    >>>> Saying you can do a 300ft dive in cold water in very low vis =
and >>>>actually doing it are 2 different things. The first only takes =
your >>>>mouth, the second takes much more.=20

  The quote above was meant for guys like you and the others who often =
say '"anybody can do that".


    >>>>As the date came within a week the excuses started rolling in, I =
even >>>>heard one guy say his wife was planning on getting pregnant =
that >>>>weekend and he wanted to be there when it happened, so he =
>>>>couldn't make the dive. (not really true, but sounds good don't it)=20

  That was meant as humor..... something old short guys don't have, they =
spend all their lives breathing the air next to normal peoples =
asshole.....they have a rough life. You ever thought of getting platform =
shoes?=20


    >>>>With the group down to 7 we headed to the lake, one guy said his =
>>>>engine blew up, so we were down to 6 at dive time.=20

  This is what really happened........
  Give it a rest Joe, you don't have a clue.


    Joe
    =20
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: David B. Widen=20
        To: joe@po*.co*=20
        Cc: Capt JT Barker ; Vbtech ; Techdiver=20
        Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:31 AM=20
        Subject: RE: Lake Jocassee Project


        Jo=20
        =20
        I am one of the people that would normally have been on the =
trip. The primary reason (whether it is your business or not) that I was =
not has to do with a couple of projects I am working on for my Company. =
It is called available time and project due dates. It is not what you =
are alluding to.=20
        =20
        David=20
        -----Original Message-----=20
        From: FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net =
[mailto:FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net] On Behalf Of joe@po*.co*=20
        Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:22 PM=20
        To: vbtech@ci*.co*; Capt JT=20
        Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com; FLTechDiver@mikey.net=20
        Subject: Re: Lake Jocassee Project=20
        =20
        I do not doubt the veracity of the report.  You couldn't have =
made that up.  I am talking about your ridicule of those whose survival =
instincts prompted them to back out.  I find that offensive because it =
is a good way to push people into getting themselves killed for fear of =
being criticized.=20
        =20
        =20
        =20
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Capt JT=20
        To: Joe ; vbtech@ci*.co*=20
        Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com ; FLTechDiver@mikey.net=20
        Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:46 PM=20
        Subject: Re: Lake Jocassee Project=20
        =20
        Make what you want of it, everyone who was there and those who =
were to go but didn't know the answers. Not one of them will post =
anything different than what I say. Every report on dives I make is sent =
to those on the trip and they have the option to make changes if it is =
true or I am mistaken before I post it.=20


         At 07:25 PM 11/6/02 -0800, Joe wrote:=20
        JT:=20
        =20
        I love the way you try to make fun of the people that had more =
sense than to dive with you, whether the reason was that the dive was =
beyond their abilities and experience or that they just were using good =
judgment and abiding by rules no. 1 and 2.=20
        =20
        You make the dive sound like a dare.  What's up with that?=20
        =20
        Best.=20
        =20
        Joe=20
        =20
        =20
        ----- Original Message -----=20


        From: Capt JT=20
        To: vbtech@ci*.co*=20
        Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com ; FLTechDiver@mikey.net=20
        Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:19 AM=20


        Subject: Lake Jocassee Project




        Lake Jocassee is a dammed valley with depths at times to 350ft. =
After last years trip to the lake ( read about it here =
http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/display?51280,from =
) a new project was born. When the valley was flooded around 1968 =
several structures were left and is the bases for many rumors as to what =
is still there and who left what. With forest, roads, peaks, and who =
really knows what is down there, it was a challenge to find a starting =
point to began a search for some of these rumored things.


        Jackie Smith who has many dives to the lake had started to =
follow a road that would lead him to a bridge, sound easy? Once you add =
in the depth of 300ft and distance one might have to swim while poking a =
rod down through the muck to feel for the road you get the feeling this =
will take some time. =20
        Capt Bill Routh owner of "Off The Wall Dive Charters"( =
www.offthewalldiving.com )  had done 3 years of interviews and archives =
of old aerial soil assay pictures from the 60's. After endless hrs =
motoring around looking Bill contacted friends with a Side Scan Sonar , =
Jonathan Royer & Danelle Haley with Deep Seekers to help map the bottom. =
After a few days an area was located that showed what could be a bridge =
with a creek/river, the bridge was over what used to be White Water =
River that ran adjacent to a camp. An old photograph taken from someone =
standing on the bridge revealed a place called "Camp Jocassee". Camp =
Jocassee established in 1922 for girls ran until late 60's the summer =
before the DAM, it had a main building and residence for the camp owners =
and several concrete block cabins for the campers.The entrance to the =
camp was lined with stone walls with pillars on each side of a white =
picket fence gate as shown in the picture taken from the bridge looking =
toward the camp entrance.=20


        I asked Jackie if I could help and the project was born. Jackie =
arranged for the charter with Capt Bill Routh owner of "Off The Wall =
Dive Charters"( www.offthewalldiving.com )  and I assembled the group, I =
had at first limited it to 8 divers. Knowing that many would back out =
once the time came near I allowed 12 to commit. Saying you can do a =
300ft dive in cold water in very low vis and actually doing it are 2 =
different things. The first only takes your mouth, the second takes much =
more.=20
        As the date came within a week the excuses started rolling in, I =
even heard one guy say his wife was planning on getting pregnant that =
weekend and he wanted to be there when it happened, so he couldn't make =
the dive. (not really true, but sounds good don't it)=20
        With the group down to 7 we headed to the lake, one guy said his =
engine blew up, so we were down to 6 at dive time.=20
        Capt. Bill with Samantha Swenson as crew (who did a great job) =
dropped a shot line in what was believed to be the old creek bed, the =
level of the lake was low and the depth here was only 315ft, some trees =
remained on each side of the creek and we believed that we could scooter =
it until we found the bridge and a lift bag would be deployed and =
secured to the bridge, then a permanent line could then be attached to =
it.=20
        Tom Sawicki, Bill Ripley and myself were tasked for this and =
geared up for the dive. The air temp had warmed up from the morning cool =
of 33, to a cool of around 43. We entered the water carrying all gas =
needed for the dive, we were diving gas mixes and tables recommended by =
Tom, I am not allowed to disclose the mixes and tables. The water temp =
was 65 on top down to 80ft and did a drop to 46 degrees, vis went from =
20ft down to 5ft around 200ft. Tom stopped at 225ft and called the dive =
during the descent, I could not understand why. Everyone returned Ok =
signs back to me and yet Tom still was calling the dive, I could not =
understand why. I asked Tom why and on his wet notes he wrote "VIS", I =
was pissed........ It is a standing rule that if one calls the dive we =
must all surface, but that did not mean I had to be happy about it. At =
one point I knocked my own mask off while moving stages around because I =
was so pissed. Once on the boat he explained that scootering in that low =
vis was not doable and we were getting to far apart for such low vis, he =
was correct, but we did not know it was that bad on the bottom yet, but =
later we would find he was right about that and was only concerned with =
every ones safety.=20
        The plan was then changed and Jackie Smith, Charlie Johnson, and =
Rodney King (not that Rodney King) would go down another line that was =
dropped and hoped it had hooked the bridge(if it was there) or near it, =
hopefully not in the trees. We watched as they went down and could see =
they were not leaving the line. They surfaced to report that the hook =
had in fact snagged the bridge, but vis was less than 5ft.=20
        With the first day gone, plans were made for the second day. =
Tom, Bill, Rodney, and myself would go down the line we left buoyed to =
the bridge,Tom would run a line from the bridge in a direction we =
believed the camp to be, Rodney would video, Bill and myself would stay =
near them and survey.=20
        Once at the top of the bridge which was at 289ft I waited for =
everyone to show up, Rodney videoed while Tom and I secured the line to =
the bridge that would be run. Once everyone made the move away from the =
bridge I was at the rear and checked my gas(I was the only one using the =
same tanks from the first dive and they were less than full when we =
started, I had gave my second set of doubles to Tom to use). I had =
reached my turn pressure and returned to the bridge, vis was so bad they =
were not aware of this and I chose to remain close to the up line and =
just inspect the bridge to conserve gas. They returned with excitement =
in their eyes having run the line to a white picket fence that surrounds =
the camp which has stone pillars at the entrance and can be seen in the =
video, the reel was left on the fence for who ever goes next to run the =
line into the camp house which should be just inside.=20
        Jackie and Charlie were tasked to take down a permanent line and =
chain it into the bridge that would be left for future dives, a keg was =
placed on the line 20ft under the surface and GPS coordinates were =
taken.=20
        I will show the video at the VBtech meeting on Thursday and =
place photos on my site as soon as I can.=20
        Hope you have enjoyed this report=20
        Capt JT=20




           =20




        "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to =
get in the water"=20
        Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more=20
         Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/=20
        Email     captjt@mi*.co*=20




        "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to =
get in the water"=20
        Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more=20
         Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/=20
        Email     captjt@mi*.co*=20


    "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get =
in the water"
    Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more=20
     Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
    Email     captjt@mi*.co*



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You need to grow up and start taking =
responsibility=20
for your irresponsible statements.  There is nothing humorous about =

pressuring people into doing something they might not be comfortable=20
with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh, and while I'm at it, I know that =
you are really=20
22 years old and 6'3".  You just look worn out and short for =
your=20
height.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Joe</DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>"Your a lair, fries don't come with=20
that."<BR>          &nb=
sp;           &nbs=
p;          =20
- Capt. JT Barker</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dcaptjt@mi*.co* =
href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">Capt JT</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djoe@po*.co*=20
  href=3D"mailto:joe@po*.co*">joe@polarbearinc.com</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Ddwiden@co*.ne* href=3D"mailto:dwiden@co*.ne*">David B. =
Widen</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dvbtech@ci*.co*=20
  href=3D"mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*">Vbtech</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">Techdiver</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dfltechdiver@mikey.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:fltechdiver@mikey.net">fltechdiver@mikey.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 07, =
2002 6:14=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Lake Jocassee =
Project</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>At 08:21 AM 11/7/02 -0500, <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:joe@po*.co*">joe@polarbearinc.com</A>=20
  wrote:<BR><BR><FONT color=3D#ff0000>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">>>>> Saying you can do =
a 300ft=20
    dive in cold water in very low vis and >>>>actually =
doing it are=20
    2 different things. The first only takes your >>>>mouth, =
the=20
    second takes much more. </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>The quote above
was =
meant for=20
  guys like you and the others who often say '"anybody can do=20
  that".<BR><BR><FONT color=3D#ff0000>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">>>>>As the date came =
within a=20
    week the excuses started rolling in, I even >>>>heard =
one guy=20
    say his wife was planning on getting pregnant that =
>>>>weekend=20
    and he wanted to be there when it happened, so he =
>>>>couldn't=20
    make the dive. (not really true, but sounds good don't it)=20
  </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That was meant as humor..... something old =
short guys=20
  don't have, they spend all their lives breathing the air next to =
normal=20
  peoples asshole.....they have a rough life. You ever thought of =
getting=20
  platform shoes? <BR><BR><FONT color=3D#ff0000>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">>>>>With the group =
down to 7 we=20
    headed to the lake, one guy said his >>>>engine blew up, =
so we=20
    were down to 6 at dive time. </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>This is what =
really=20
  happened........<BR>Give it a rest Joe, you don't have a =
clue.<BR><BR><FONT=20
  face=3Darial size=3D2>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">Joe</FONT><BR><FONT=20
    color=3D#ff0000> </FONT>
    <BLOCKQUOTE>
      <DL>
        <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
        <DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:dwiden@co*.ne*">David B. =
Widen</A>=20
        <DD>To:</B> <A=20
        href=3D"mailto:joe@po*.co*">joe@polarbearinc.com</A>=20
        <DD>Cc:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">Capt JT =
Barker</A> ;=20
        <A href=3D"mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*">Vbtech</A> ; <A=20
        href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">Techdiver</A>=20
        <DD>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:31 AM=20
        <DD>Subject:</B> RE: Lake Jocassee Project<BR><BR><FONT =
face=3Darial=20
        color=3D#000080 size=3D2>
        <DD>Jo</FONT>=20
        <DD>=20
        <DD>I am one of the people that would normally have been on the =
trip.=20
        The primary reason (whether it is your business or not) that I =
was not=20
        has to do with a couple of projects I am working on for my =
Company. It=20
        is called available time and project due dates. It is not what =
you are=20
        alluding to.=20
        <DD>=20
        <DD>David<FONT face=3Dtahoma size=3D2>=20
        <DD>-----Original Message-----=20
        <DD>From:</B> <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net">FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net</=
A>=20
        [<A href=3D"mailto:FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net"=20
        eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net</A>] On =
Behalf Of=20
        </B><A =
href=3D"mailto:joe@po*.co*">joe@polarbearinc.com</A>=20
        <DD>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:22 PM=20
        <DD>To:</B> <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*">vbtech@cisatlantic.com</A>; Capt =
JT=20

        <DD>Cc:</B> <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>; <A=20
        href=3D"mailto:FLTechDiver@mikey.net">FLTechDiver@mikey.net</A>=20
        <DD>Subject:</B> Re: Lake Jocassee Project</FONT><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">=20
        <DD></FONT><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
        <DD>I do not doubt the veracity of the report.  You =
couldn't have=20
        made that up.  I am talking about your ridicule of those =
whose=20
        survival instincts prompted them to back out.  I find that=20
        offensive because it is a good way to push people into getting=20
        themselves killed for fear of being criticized.</FONT><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">=20
        <DD></FONT>=20
        <DD>=20
        <DD>=20
        <DD>----- Original Message ----- <FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>
        <DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">Capt =
JT</A> </FONT>
        <DD>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:joe@po*.co*">Joe</A> ; <A =

        =
href=3D"mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*">vbtech@cisatlantic.com</A>=20
        <DD>Cc:</B> <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> ; <A=20
        href=3D"mailto:FLTechDiver@mikey.net">FLTechDiver@mikey.net</A>=20
        <DD>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:46 PM=20
        <DD>Subject:</B> Re: Lake Jocassee Project<FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">=20
        <DD></FONT>=20
        <DD>Make what you want of it, everyone who was there and those =
who were=20
        to go but didn't know the answers. Not one of them will post =
anything=20
        different than what I say. Every report on dives I make is sent =
to those=20
        on the trip and they have the option to make changes if it is =
true or I=20
        am mistaken before I post it. <BR><BR>
        <DD> At 07:25 PM 11/6/02 -0800, Joe wrote:<FONT =
face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
        <DD>JT:</FONT>=20
        <DD><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
        <DD>I love the way you try to make fun of the people that had =
more sense=20
        than to dive with you, whether the reason was that the dive was =
beyond=20
        their abilities and experience or that they just were using good =

        judgment and abiding by rules no. 1 and 2.</FONT>=20
        <DD><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
        <DD>You make the dive sound like a dare.  What's up with=20
        that?</FONT>=20
        <DD><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
        <DD>Best.</FONT>=20
        <DD><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
        <DD>Joe</FONT>=20
        <DD>=20
        <DD>=20
        <DD>----- Original Message ----- <BR><BR><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">
        <DD>From: <A href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">Capt JT</A> =
</FONT>
        <DD>To: <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*">vbtech@cisatlantic.com</A>=20
        <DD>Cc: <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> ; <A=20
        href=3D"mailto:FLTechDiver@mikey.net">FLTechDiver@mikey.net</A>=20
        <DD>Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:19 AM
<BR><BR><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">
        <DD>Subject: </FONT>Lake Jocassee
Project<BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">
        <DD>Lake</FONT> Jocassee is a dammed valley with depths at times =
to=20
        350ft. After last years trip to the lake ( read about it here <A =

        =
href=3D"http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/display?5128=
0,from"=20
        =
eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/d=
isplay?51280,from</A>=20
        ) a new project was born. When the valley was flooded around =
1968=20
        several structures were left and is the bases for many rumors as =
to what=20
        is still there and who left what. With forest, roads, peaks, and =
who=20
        really knows what is down there, it was a challenge to find a =
starting=20
        point to began a search for some of these rumored =
things.<BR><BR><FONT=20
        face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">
        <DD>Jackie Smith who has many dives to the lake had started to =
follow a=20
        road that would lead him to a bridge, sound easy? Once you add =
in the=20
        depth of 300ft and distance one might have to swim while poking =
a rod=20
        down through the muck to feel for the road you get the feeling =
this will=20
        take some time.  </FONT>
        <DD>Capt Bill Routh owner of "Off The Wall Dive Charters"( <A=20
        href=3D"http://www.offthewalldiving.com/"=20
        eudora=3D"autourl">www.offthewalldiving.com</A> )  had done =
3 years=20
        of interviews and archives of old aerial soil assay pictures =
from the=20
        60's. After endless hrs motoring around looking Bill contacted =
friends=20
        with a Side Scan Sonar , Jonathan Royer & Danelle Haley with =
Deep=20
        Seekers to help map the bottom. After a few days an area was =
located=20
        that showed what could be a bridge with a creek/river, the =
bridge was=20
        over what used to be White Water River that ran adjacent to a =
camp. An=20
        old photograph taken from someone standing on the bridge =
revealed a=20
        place called "Camp Jocassee". Camp Jocassee established in 1922 =
for=20
        girls ran until late 60's the summer before the DAM, it had a =
main=20
        building and residence for the camp owners and several concrete =
block=20
        cabins for the campers.The entrance to the camp was lined with =
stone=20
        walls with pillars on each side of a white picket fence gate as =
shown in=20
        the picture taken from the bridge looking toward the camp =
entrance.=20
        <BR><BR><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">
        <DD>I asked Jackie if I could help and the project was born. =
Jackie=20
        arranged for the charter with Capt Bill Routh owner of "Off The =
Wall=20
        Dive Charters"( <A href=3D"http://www.offthewalldiving.com/"=20
        eudora=3D"autourl">www.offthewalldiving.com</A> )  and I =
assembled=20
        the group, I had at first limited it to 8 divers. Knowing that =
many=20
        would back out once the time came near I allowed 12 to commit. =
Saying=20
        you can do a 300ft dive in cold water in very low vis and =
actually doing=20
        it are 2 different things. The first only takes your mouth, the =
second=20
        takes much more. </FONT>
        <DD>As the date came within a week the excuses started rolling =
in, I=20
        even heard one guy say his wife was planning on getting pregnant =
that=20
        weekend and he wanted to be there when it happened, so he =
couldn't make=20
        the dive. (not really true, but sounds good don't it)=20
        <DD>With the group down to 7 we headed to the lake, one guy said =
his=20
        engine blew up, so we were down to 6 at dive time.=20
        <DD>Capt. Bill with Samantha Swenson as crew (who did a great =
job)=20
        dropped a shot line in what was believed to be the old creek =
bed, the=20
        level of the lake was low and the depth here was only 315ft, =
some trees=20
        remained on each side of the creek and we believed that we could =
scooter=20
        it until we found the bridge and a lift bag would be deployed =
and=20
        secured to the bridge, then a permanent line could then be =
attached to=20
        it.=20
        <DD>Tom Sawicki, Bill Ripley and myself were tasked for this and =
geared=20
        up for the dive. The air temp had warmed up from the morning =
cool of 33,=20
        to a cool of around 43. We entered the water carrying all gas =
needed for=20
        the dive, we were diving gas mixes and tables recommended by =
Tom, I am=20
        not allowed to disclose the mixes and tables. The water temp was =
65 on=20
        top down to 80ft and did a drop to 46 degrees, vis went from =
20ft down=20
        to 5ft around 200ft. Tom stopped at 225ft and called the dive =
during the=20
        descent, I could not understand why. Everyone returned Ok signs =
back to=20
        me and yet Tom still was calling the dive, I could not =
understand why. I=20
        asked Tom why and on his wet notes he wrote "VIS", I was =
pissed........=20
        It is a standing rule that if one calls the dive we must all =
surface,=20
        but that did not mean I had to be happy about it. At one point I =
knocked=20
        my own mask off while moving stages around because I was so =
pissed. Once=20
        on the boat he explained that scootering in that low vis was not =
doable=20
        and we were getting to far apart for such low vis, he was =
correct, but=20
        we did not know it was that bad on the bottom yet, but later we =
would=20
        find he was right about that and was only concerned with every =
ones=20
        safety.=20
        <DD>The plan was then changed and Jackie Smith, Charlie Johnson, =
and=20
        Rodney King (not that Rodney King) would go down another line =
that was=20
        dropped and hoped it had hooked the bridge(if it was there) or =
near it,=20
        hopefully not in the trees. We watched as they went down and =
could see=20
        they were not leaving the line. They surfaced to report that the =
hook=20
        had in fact snagged the bridge, but vis was less than 5ft.=20
        <DD>With the first day gone, plans were made for the second day. =
Tom,=20
        Bill, Rodney, and myself would go down the line we left buoyed =
to the=20
        bridge,Tom would run a line from the bridge in a direction we =
believed=20
        the camp to be, Rodney would video, Bill and myself would stay =
near them=20
        and survey.=20
        <DD>Once at the top of the bridge which was at 289ft I waited =
for=20
        everyone to show up, Rodney videoed while Tom and I secured the =
line to=20
        the bridge that would be run. Once everyone made the move away =
from the=20
        bridge I was at the rear and checked my gas(I was the only one =
using the=20
        same tanks from the first dive and they were less than full when =
we=20
        started, I had gave my second set of doubles to Tom to use). I =
had=20
        reached my turn pressure and returned to the bridge, vis was so =
bad they=20
        were not aware of this and I chose to remain close to the up =
line and=20
        just inspect the bridge to conserve gas. They returned with =
excitement=20
        in their eyes having run the line to a white picket fence that =
surrounds=20
        the camp which has stone pillars at the entrance and can be seen =
in the=20
        video, the reel was left on the fence for who ever goes next to =
run the=20
        line into the camp house which should be just inside.=20
        <DD>Jackie and Charlie were tasked to take down a permanent line =
and=20
        chain it into the bridge that would be left for future dives, a =
keg was=20
        placed on the line 20ft under the surface and GPS coordinates =
were=20
        taken.=20
        <DD>I will show the video at the VBtech meeting on Thursday and =
place=20
        photos on my site as soon as I can.=20
        <DD>Hope you have enjoyed this report=20
        <DD>Capt JT <BR><BR><BR><BR>
        <DD>    <BR><BR><BR><BR>
        <DD>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you =
have to get=20
        in the water"<FONT face=3D"Times New Roman, Times" =
color=3D#0000ff> </FONT>
        <DD>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & =
more=20
        <DD> Web Site  <A href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/"=20
        eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</A>=20
        <DD>Email     captjt@mi*.co*=20
        <BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman, Times">
        <DD>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you =
have to get=20
        in the water"</FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman, Times" =
color=3D#0000ff>=20
        <DD>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & =
more=20
        <DD> Web Site  <A href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/"=20
        eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</A>=20
        <DD>Email     =
captjt@mi*.co*</FONT></U>=20
      </DD></DL></U></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>"You can't learn to
dive on the =
net,=20
    sooner or later you have to get in the water"<BR><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><U>Your=20
    Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more =
<BR> Web=20
    Site  <A href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/"=20
    eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com</A><A =
href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/"=20
    eudora=3D"autourl">/<BR></A>Email    =20
    =
captjt@mi*.co*<BR><BR></FONT></U></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><
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