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From: "David B. Widen" <dwiden@co*.ne*>
To: <joe@po*.co*>
Cc: "Capt JT Barker" <captjt@mi*.co*>,
     "Vbtech" , "Techdiver"
Subject: RE: Lake Jocassee Project
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:31:58 -0500
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Jo
 
I am one of the people that would normally have been on the trip. The
primary reason (whether it is your business or not) that I was not has
to do with a couple of projects I am working on for my Company. It is
called available time and project due dates. It is not what you are
alluding to. 
 
David
-----Original Message-----
From: FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net [mailto:FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net]
On Behalf Of joe@po*.co*
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:22 PM
To: vbtech@ci*.co*; Capt JT
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com; FLTechDiver@mikey.net
Subject: Re: Lake Jocassee Project
 
I do not doubt the veracity of the report.  You couldn't have made that
up.  I am talking about your ridicule of those whose survival instincts
prompted them to back out.  I find that offensive because it is a good
way to push people into getting themselves killed for fear of being
criticized.
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Capt JT <mailto:captjt@mi*.co*>  
To: Joe <mailto:joe@po*.co*>  ; vbtech@ci*.co* 
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com ; FLTechDiver@mikey.net 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: Lake Jocassee Project
 
Make what you want of it, everyone who was there and those who were to
go but didn't know the answers. Not one of them will post anything
different than what I say. Every report on dives I make is sent to those
on the trip and they have the option to make changes if it is true or I
am mistaken before I post it. 

 At 07:25 PM 11/6/02 -0800, Joe wrote:


JT:
 
I love the way you try to make fun of the people that had more sense
than to dive with you, whether the reason was that the dive was beyond
their abilities and experience or that they just were using good
judgment and abiding by rules no. 1 and 2.
 
You make the dive sound like a dare.  What's up with that?
 
Best.
 
Joe
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Capt JT <mailto:captjt@mi*.co*>  
To: vbtech@ci*.co* 
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com ; FLTechDiver@mikey.net 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:19 AM 
Subject: Lake Jocassee Project



Lake Jocassee is a dammed valley with depths at times to 350ft. After
last years trip to the lake ( read about it here
http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/display?51280,from
) a new project was born. When the valley was flooded around 1968
several structures were left and is the bases for many rumors as to what
is still there and who left what. With forest, roads, peaks, and who
really knows what is down there, it was a challenge to find a starting
point to began a search for some of these rumored things.
Jackie Smith who has many dives to the lake had started to follow a road
that would lead him to a bridge, sound easy? Once you add in the depth
of 300ft and distance one might have to swim while poking a rod down
through the muck to feel for the road you get the feeling this will take
some time.  
Capt Bill Routh owner of "Off The Wall Dive Charters"(
www.offthewalldiving.com <http://www.offthewalldiving.com/>  )  had done
3 years of interviews and archives of old aerial soil assay pictures
from the 60's. After endless hrs motoring around looking Bill contacted
friends with a Side Scan Sonar , Jonathan Royer & Danelle Haley with
Deep Seekers to help map the bottom. After a few days an area was
located that showed what could be a bridge with a creek/river, the
bridge was over what used to be White Water River that ran adjacent to a
camp. An old photograph taken from someone standing on the bridge
revealed a place called "Camp Jocassee". Camp Jocassee established in
1922 for girls ran until late 60's the summer before the DAM, it had a
main building and residence for the camp owners and several concrete
block cabins for the campers.The entrance to the camp was lined with
stone walls with pillars on each side of a white picket fence gate as
shown in the picture taken from the bridge looking toward the camp
entrance. 
I asked Jackie if I could help and the project was born. Jackie arranged
for the charter with Capt Bill Routh owner of "Off The Wall Dive
Charters"( www.offthewalldiving.com <http://www.offthewalldiving.com/>
)  and I assembled the group, I had at first limited it to 8 divers.
Knowing that many would back out once the time came near I allowed 12 to
commit. Saying you can do a 300ft dive in cold water in very low vis and
actually doing it are 2 different things. The first only takes your
mouth, the second takes much more. 
As the date came within a week the excuses started rolling in, I even
heard one guy say his wife was planning on getting pregnant that weekend
and he wanted to be there when it happened, so he couldn't make the
dive. (not really true, but sounds good don't it) 
With the group down to 7 we headed to the lake, one guy said his engine
blew up, so we were down to 6 at dive time. 
Capt. Bill with Samantha Swenson as crew (who did a great job) dropped a
shot line in what was believed to be the old creek bed, the level of the
lake was low and the depth here was only 315ft, some trees remained on
each side of the creek and we believed that we could scooter it until we
found the bridge and a lift bag would be deployed and secured to the
bridge, then a permanent line could then be attached to it. 
Tom Sawicki, Bill Ripley and myself were tasked for this and geared up
for the dive. The air temp had warmed up from the morning cool of 33, to
a cool of around 43. We entered the water carrying all gas needed for
the dive, we were diving gas mixes and tables recommended by Tom, I am
not allowed to disclose the mixes and tables. The water temp was 65 on
top down to 80ft and did a drop to 46 degrees, vis went from 20ft down
to 5ft around 200ft. Tom stopped at 225ft and called the dive during the
descent, I could not understand why. Everyone returned Ok signs back to
me and yet Tom still was calling the dive, I could not understand why. I
asked Tom why and on his wet notes he wrote "VIS", I was pissed........
It is a standing rule that if one calls the dive we must all surface,
but that did not mean I had to be happy about it. At one point I knocked
my own mask off while moving stages around because I was so pissed. Once
on the boat he explained that scootering in that low vis was not doable
and we were getting to far apart for such low vis, he was correct, but
we did not know it was that bad on the bottom yet, but later we would
find he was right about that and was only concerned with every ones
safety. 
The plan was then changed and Jackie Smith, Charlie Johnson, and Rodney
King (not that Rodney King) would go down another line that was dropped
and hoped it had hooked the bridge(if it was there) or near it,
hopefully not in the trees. We watched as they went down and could see
they were not leaving the line. They surfaced to report that the hook
had in fact snagged the bridge, but vis was less than 5ft.
With the first day gone, plans were made for the second day. Tom, Bill,
Rodney, and myself would go down the line we left buoyed to the
bridge,Tom would run a line from the bridge in a direction we believed
the camp to be, Rodney would video, Bill and myself would stay near them
and survey. 
Once at the top of the bridge which was at 289ft I waited for everyone
to show up, Rodney videoed while Tom and I secured the line to the
bridge that would be run. Once everyone made the move away from the
bridge I was at the rear and checked my gas(I was the only one using the
same tanks from the first dive and they were less than full when we
started, I had gave my second set of doubles to Tom to use). I had
reached my turn pressure and returned to the bridge, vis was so bad they
were not aware of this and I chose to remain close to the up line and
just inspect the bridge to conserve gas. They returned with excitement
in their eyes having run the line to a white picket fence that surrounds
the camp which has stone pillars at the entrance and can be seen in the
video, the reel was left on the fence for who ever goes next to run the
line into the camp house which should be just inside.
Jackie and Charlie were tasked to take down a permanent line and chain
it into the bridge that would be left for future dives, a keg was placed
on the line 20ft under the surface and GPS coordinates were taken. 
I will show the video at the VBtech meeting on Thursday and place photos
on my site as soon as I can.
Hope you have enjoyed this report 
Capt JT 



    



"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in
the water" 
Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more 
 Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/ 
Email     captjt@mi*.co* 


"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in
the water"
Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more 
 Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com <http://www.capt-jt.com/> /
<http://www.capt-jt.com/> 
Email     captjt@mi*.co*

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am one of the people that would =
normally
have been on the trip. The primary reason (whether it is your business =
or not)
that I was not has to do with a couple of projects I am working on for =
my Company.
It is called available time and project due dates. It is not what you =
are alluding
to. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net
[mailto:FLTechDiver-owner@mikey.net] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>joe@po*.co*<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> =
</span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"11" Day=3D"6" Year=3D"2002"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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Hour=3D"23" Minute=3D"22"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
vbtech@ci*.co*; Capt
JT<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> =
techdiver@aquanaut.com;
FLTechDiver@mikey.net<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: =
</span></font><st1:place><font
 size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Lake</span></font></st1:p
la=
ce><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Jocassee
Project</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I do not doubt the veracity =
of the
report.  You couldn't have made that up.  I am talking about =
your
ridicule of those whose survival instincts prompted them to back =
out.  I
find that offensive because it is a good way to push people into getting
themselves killed for fear of being =
criticized.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
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href=3D"mailto:joe@po*.co*" =
title=3D"joe@po*.co*">Joe</a> ; <a
href=3D"mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*" =
title=3D"vbtech@ci*.co*">vbtech@cisatlantic.com</a>
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pan></font></b><font
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</span></font><st1:place><font
 size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Lake</span></font></st1:pl
ac=
e><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Jocassee
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Make what you want of it, everyone who was =
there and
those who were to go but didn't know the answers. Not one of them will =
post
anything different than what I say. Every report on dives I make is sent =
to
those on the trip and they have the option to make changes if it is true =
or I
am mistaken before I post it. <br>
<br>
 At </span></font><st1:time Hour=3D"19" Minute=3D"25">07:25 =
PM</st1:time> <st1:date
Month=3D"11" Day=3D"6" Year=3D"2002">11/6/02</st1:date> -0800, Joe =
wrote:<br
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>JT:</span></font><br>
 <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I love
the way you try to make fun of the people that had more sense than to =
dive with
you, whether the reason was that the dive was beyond their abilities and
experience or that they just were using good judgment and abiding by =
rules no.
1 and 2.</span></font><br>
 <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>You
make the dive sound like a dare.  What's up with =
that?</span></font><br>
 <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Best.</span></font><br>
 <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Joe</span></font><br>
 <br>
 <br>
----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">Capt JT</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:vbtech@ci*.co*">vbtech@cisatlantic.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</a>
; <a href=3D"mailto:FLTechDiver@mikey.net">FLTechDiver@mikey.net</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Sent: </span></font><st1:date Month=3D"11" =
Day=3D"6"
Year=3D"2002">Wednesday, November 06, 2002</st1:date> <st1:time =
Hour=3D"11"
Minute=3D"19">11:19 AM</st1:time> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Subject: =
</span></font><st1:place>Lake</st1:place>
Jocassee Project<br>
<br style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br =
style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![endif]><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><st1:place><st1:PlaceType><font size=3D3
  face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Lake</span></font></st1:PlaceType>
 <st1:PlaceName>Jocassee</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> is a dammed
valley =
with
depths at times to 350ft. After last years trip to the lake ( read about =
it
here <a
href=3D"http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/display?5128=
0,from"
eudora=3Dautourl>http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/dis=
play?51280,from</a>
) a new project was born. When the valley was flooded around 1968 =
several
structures were left and is the bases for many rumors as to what is =
still there
and who left what. With forest, roads, peaks, and who really knows what =
is down
there, it was a challenge to find a starting point to began a search for =
some
of these rumored things.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Jackie Smith who has many dives to the lake =
had
started to follow a road that would lead him to a bridge, sound easy? =
Once you
add in the depth of 300ft and distance one might have to swim while =
poking a
rod down through the muck to feel for the road you get the feeling this =
will
take some time.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Capt Bill Routh owner of "Off The Wall =
Dive
Charters"( <a href=3D"http://www.offthewalldiving.com/" =
eudora=3Dautourl>www.offthewalldiving.com</a>
)  had done 3 years of interviews and archives of old aerial soil =
assay
pictures from the 60's. After endless hrs motoring around looking Bill
contacted friends with a Side Scan Sonar , Jonathan Royer & Danelle =
Haley
with Deep Seekers to help map the bottom. After a few days an area was =
located
that showed what could be a bridge with a creek/river, the bridge was =
over what
used to be
</span></font><st1:place><st1:PlaceName>White</st1:PlaceName> =
<st1:PlaceName>Water</st1:PlaceName>
 <st1:PlaceType>River</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> that ran adjacent to
a =
camp.
An old photograph taken from someone standing on the bridge revealed a =
place
called "<st1:place><st1:PlaceType>Camp</st1:PlaceType> =
<st1:PlaceName>Jocassee</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>".
Camp Jocassee established in 1922 for girls ran until late 60's the =
summer
before the DAM, it had a main building and residence for the camp owners =
and
several concrete block cabins for the campers.The entrance to the camp =
was
lined with stone walls with pillars on each side of a white picket fence =
gate
as shown in the picture taken from the bridge looking toward the camp =
entrance.
<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I asked Jackie if I could help and the =
project was
born. Jackie arranged for the charter with Capt Bill Routh owner of =
"Off
The Wall Dive Charters"( <a =
href=3D"http://www.offthewalldiving.com/"
eudora=3Dautourl>www.offthewalldiving.com</a> )  and I assembled =
the group,
I had at first limited it to 8 divers. Knowing that many would back out =
once
the time came near I allowed 12 to commit. Saying you can do a 300ft =
dive in
cold water in very low vis and actually doing it are 2 different things. =
The
first only takes your mouth, the second takes much more. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>As the date came within a week the excuses =
started
rolling in, I even heard one guy say his wife was planning on getting =
pregnant
that weekend and he wanted to be there when it happened, so he couldn't =
make
the dive. (not really true, but sounds good don't it) =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>With the group down to 7 we headed to the =
lake, one
guy said his engine blew up, so we were down to 6 at dive time. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Capt. Bill with Samantha Swenson as crew (who =
did a
great job) dropped a shot line in what was believed to be the old creek =
bed,
the level of the lake was low and the depth here was only 315ft, some =
trees
remained on each side of the creek and we believed that we could scooter =
it
until we found the bridge and a lift bag would be deployed and secured =
to the
bridge, then a permanent line could then be attached to it. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Tom Sawicki, Bill Ripley and myself were =
tasked for
this and geared up for the dive. The air temp had warmed up from the =
morning
cool of 33, to a cool of around 43. We entered the water carrying all =
gas
needed for the dive, we were diving gas mixes and tables recommended by =
Tom, I
am not allowed to disclose the mixes and tables. The water temp was 65 =
on top
down to 80ft and did a drop to 46 degrees, vis went from 20ft down to =
5ft
around 200ft. Tom stopped at 225ft and called the dive during the =
descent, I
could not understand why. Everyone returned Ok signs back to me and yet =
Tom
still was calling the dive, I could not understand why. I asked Tom why =
and on
his wet notes he wrote "VIS", I was pissed........ It is a =
standing
rule that if one calls the dive we must all surface, but that did not =
mean I had
to be happy about it. At one point I knocked my own mask off while =
moving
stages around because I was so pissed. Once on the boat he explained =
that
scootering in that low vis was not doable and we were getting to far =
apart for
such low vis, he was correct, but we did not know it was that bad on the =
bottom
yet, but later we would find he was right about that and was only =
concerned
with every ones safety. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>The plan was then changed and Jackie Smith, =
Charlie
Johnson, and Rodney King (not that Rodney King) would go down another =
line that
was dropped and hoped it had hooked the bridge(if it was there) or near =
it,
hopefully not in the trees. We watched as they went down and could see =
they
were not leaving the line. They surfaced to report that the hook had in =
fact
snagged the bridge, but vis was less than =
5ft.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>With the first day gone, plans were made for =
the
second day. Tom, Bill, Rodney, and myself would go down the line we left =
buoyed
to the bridge,Tom would run a line from the bridge in a direction we =
believed
the camp to be, Rodney would video, Bill and myself would stay near them =
and
survey. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Once at the top of the bridge which was at =
289ft I
waited for everyone to show up, Rodney videoed while Tom and I secured =
the line
to the bridge that would be run. Once everyone made the move away from =
the
bridge I was at the rear and checked my gas(I was the only one using the =
same
tanks from the first dive and they were less than full when we started, =
I had
gave my second set of doubles to Tom to use). I had reached my turn =
pressure
and returned to the bridge, vis was so bad they were not aware of this =
and I
chose to remain close to the up line and just inspect the bridge to =
conserve
gas. They returned with excitement in their eyes having run the line to =
a white
picket fence that surrounds the camp which has stone pillars at the =
entrance
and can be seen in the video, the reel was left on the fence for who =
ever goes
next to run the line into the camp house which should be just =
inside.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Jackie and Charlie were tasked to take down a
permanent line and chain it into the bridge that would be left for =
future
dives, a keg was placed on the line 20ft under the surface and GPS =
coordinates
were taken. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I will show the video at the VBtech meeting =
on
Thursday and place photos on my site as soon as I =
can.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hope you have enjoyed this report =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Capt JT <br>
<br style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br =
style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>    <br>
<br style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br =
style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>"You can't learn to dive on the net, =
sooner or
later you have to get in the water"<font color=3Dblue><span
style=3D'color:blue'>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblue
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Your Guide to
Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblue
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'> Web
Site  <a href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/" =
eudora=3Dautourl>http://www.capt-jt.com/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblue
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Email    
captjt@mi*.co*</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
<br>
"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to =
get in
the water"<br>
<u><font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'>Your Guide to Great =
Wreck Diving
along the East Coast & more <br>
 Web Site  <a href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/" =
eudora=3Dautourl>http://www.capt-jt.com</a><a
href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/" eudora=3Dautourl>/<br>
</a>Email     =
captjt@mi*.co*</span></font></u><o:p></o:p></span></font>&l
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