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John, if this guy were anything but nothing, he would not have started out
with the attack and the nazi line - he has lost this fight already, and he
will have nothing to say that is not so stupid you will fall off your chair
laughing.
-----Original Message-----
From: John R. Strohm [mailto:strohm@ai*.ne*]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:07 PM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Nazi's
OK, John, having spoken up, having said "I do think open water items such
as Aluminum 80s vs. steel, year around dry suite, redundant wings, etc.,
need review," let's hear your cases on each of
- Aluminum 80s vs. steel in open water
- year around [sic] dry suite [sic] in open water
- redundant wings in open water
You say "etc.," implying that you have other issues as well. You have the
floor, we're handing you the rope. We'll even let you tie your own knot
before you hang yourself.
And while you're at it... Trey's background, experience, and track record
is well-known around the world of net diving. Yours may not be, so it would
be useful for us to hear something about your background and experience.
What is it about your diving resume that makes you someone we should listen
to, AS OPPOSED TO TREY?
I mean precisely that. Where you and Trey agree, we are guaranteed to be
in accord with you if we just ignore you on those points and listen to what
Trey has to say. You appear to disagree with Trey on some things, and you
appear to think that we should agree with you on them, and hence disagree
with Trey on those points. Bluntly: Why should we listen to you?
John, this is the test. When I (as in me personally, in correspondence
dating back almost seven years now) ask Trey why he does what he does, why
he recommends what he recommends, he always gives me a detailed answer, and
he has NEVER given me any kind of extraneous attitude. You are getting the
same opportunity to explain, IN DETAIL, why you disagree with him.
----- Original Message -----
From: JWSAVN@ao*.co*
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:02 AM
Subject: Nazi's
I think Chris Richardson says it well, particularly on the " wanna-bees
". My issues in the past have not been so much over the message but the
delivery. I do think open water items such as Aluminum 80s vs. steel, year
around dry suite, redundant wings, etc., need review.
John
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if this guy were anything but nothing, he would not have started out =
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attack and the nazi line - he has lost this fight already, and he will =
have=20
nothing to say that is not so stupid you will fall off your chair=20
laughing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> John R. Strohm=20
[mailto:strohm@ai*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 25, =
2002 4:07=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re:=20
Nazi's<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK, John, having spoken up, having =
said "I do=20
think open water items such as Aluminum 80s vs. steel, year around dry =
suite,=20
redundant wings, etc., need review," let's hear your cases on =
each=20
of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> - Aluminum 80s vs. steel in =
open=20
water</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> - year around [sic] dry suite =
[sic] in open=20
water</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> - redundant wings in open=20
water</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You say "etc.," implying that you =
have other=20
issues as well. You have the floor, we're handing you the =
rope. =20
We'll even let you tie your own knot before you hang =
yourself.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And while you're at it... =
Trey's=20
background, experience, and track record is well-known around the =
world of net=20
diving. Yours may not be, so it would be useful for us to hear =
something=20
about your background and experience. What is it about your =
diving=20
resume that makes you someone we should listen to, AS OPPOSED TO=20
TREY?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I mean precisely that. Where =
you and Trey=20
agree, we are guaranteed to be in accord with you if we just ignore =
you on=20
those points and listen to what Trey has to say. You appear to =
disagree=20
with Trey on some things, and you appear to think that we should agree =
with=20
you on them, and hence disagree with Trey on those points. =
Bluntly: Why=20
should we listen to you?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John, this is the test. When I =
(as in me=20
personally, in correspondence dating back almost seven years now) ask =
Trey why=20
he does what he does, why he recommends what he recommends, he always =
gives me=20
a detailed answer, and he has NEVER given me any kind of extraneous=20
attitude. You are getting the same opportunity to explain, IN =
DETAIL,=20
why you disagree with him.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=3DJWSAVN@ao*.co* =
href=3D"mailto:JWSAVN@ao*.co*">JWSAVN@aol.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September =
25, 2002=20
9:02 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Nazi's</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
face=3DArial size=3D2=20
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">I think Chris Richardson says it well, =
particularly on=20
the " wanna-bees ". My issues in the past have not been so much over =
the=20
message but the delivery. I do think open water items such as =
Aluminum 80s=20
vs. steel, year around dry suite, redundant wings, etc., need=20
review.<BR>John</FONT> =
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