To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Dear Danielo Allegrini and Leandro Dybal Bertoni, Your privat emails to me caused me to re-examine the information that I had available. I'm sorry to have posted depreciating remarks about the support divers, from the information that I had at the time I assumed that the 2 divers who were videotaping were also doing midlevel support. Having reread the information, I now agree that they were not doing support, and that there appears to have been no deep or midlevel support divers to assist the 2 protagonists Marcus Werneck e Luis Toledo. My comments about the support divers not having a clue were wrong since they were able to connect up to the bottom divers at 22M and exchange information about 2 hours into the dive. If deep and midlevel support divers had been available, would this have made a great deal of difference? Michael Fisch ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:13 PM Subject: RB80 - accident > > I have received so many e-mails asking for the Report that I decided to > post it to all members. > You can have an access to full Report at > http://www.pdic.com.br/relatorios.asp in spite of it is in Portuguese there > are some photos and the graphic (dive profile) of both divers. The > downloading is quite large (1mb). > Below I will try to figure out the main points of the Report : > ___________________________________________________ > Diving Accident Report > Accident's Place : Ceita Core Cavern, Bonito, MS > Accident's Date: 20 August 2002 > Divers in the accident : Marcus Werneck e Luis Toledo > Support divers: > Ismael Escote, Jayme Planas Navarro, Edmundo da Costa J�nior; Leandro Dybal > Bertoni, > Danilo Allegrini, Valfredo Pires Jr., S�rgio Costa > Level of training : > � Marcus Werneck - PDIC Instructor Trainer; Instrutor GUE Cave 1, 2 e Tech > 1, 2, e 3; RB-80 diver > � Luis Toledo - GUE Cave 2, Tech 3, RB-80 diver > � Ismael Escote - Instructor NAUI, PDIC; Full cave diver, Trimix diver > � Jayme Planas Navarro - Full cave diver; Trimix diver > � S�rgio Costa - GUE Cave I diver; Photo Sub > � Edmundo da Costa J�nior - Instructor PADI, SSI, GUE Cave 1 e Tech 1, > Instructor TDI > Trimix > � Leandro Dybal Bertoni - GUE Cave 2 diver, Tech 1; SSI Stress e Rescue > diver > � Danilo Allegrini - GUE Cave 1 diver, Tech 1; SSI Stress e Rescue diver > � Valfredo Pires Jr - GUE Cave 1 diver, Tech 1; Instructor PADI > Important equipments used : > � Halcyon RB-80 with double S80, stages S80 e S40 > � Argon cylinder 14 cuft 2015 psi, with Argon > � Dry Suit DUI TLS350 > � Undergarment DUI Polartec 300 > � Hood 5 mm > Prof. Max and Mixes used during the dive : > Bottom : 160 m -> TMX 8/77 > Intermediary : 66 m -> TMX 20/45 > Deco : 21m -> EAN 50 > Deco : 6 m -> 100% O2 -> (analysis after accident gave 98.3% O2) > � Max. Prof. : 151 meters > � Bottom time till starting ascenting : 30 minutes > � 66m change to TMX 20/45 - 59 min. of the dive > � 23m change to EAN 50 - 123 min. of the dive > � 6m change to 100% O2: > � Marcus Werneck - 53 min between 6 and 3 meters > � Luis Toledo - 88 min. between 6 and 3 meters > Divers ready to start dive > Accidents description : > No problems during the begging of the dive, they went down Ceita Core Cavern > as was planned before. After 30 minutes they start ascenting, then Marcus > Werneck noticed a small leak in his Dry Suit, probably thru the neck's seal. > Both divers said they forgot to flush the RB80' Loop before ascenting till > arrive at the first stop (change mix) at 66m. They also said they do not > remember what happened during this part of the dive and that sometimes > breathing became �heavy�. Arriving at 40m , Luiz Toledo said he was having > difficulties to coordinate movements of his bellow members. Marcus Werneck > started then an extension of Deco stop times and after arrive to a certain > depth, helped to stabilize his buddy position and also changed his mix to > EAN 50 . After 100 minutes running time, "shallow" support divers went down > to the 22m deco stop but both deep divers were not there, they were bellow > 30 meters. The support divers decided to stay at 20 meters, waiting for both > deep divers. Another team of 2 divers went down passing thru the support > divers at 20 meters and stayed with both deep divers below taking photos for > the next 20 minutes. The 2 photographers left the cave after that. After 25 > minutes the support divers start to leave the place, they noticed that the > deep divers still would take more time bellow. They met another 2 divers > that were ready to give a deeper support for both deep divers. This last > team met they at 22 meters, Marcus Werneck then said that Luiz Toledo was > not feeling the legs and said for them to prepare the emergency procedures, > including to bring O2 to 6 meters and also a full face. > At 18 m, Marcus Werneck felt strong vertigo and decided to abort the 18m and > 9m deco stops, his dry suit also had more leaking problems. Marcus Werneck > left water after 53m of pure O2 and with hypothermia. Luiz Toledo was still > doing his deco at 6 and 3 m and left water after 88m with pure O2. > There were rescue and all proceedings were done for both divers "(you can > find more info more at the full report)" including a Hyperbaric Chamber next > day in Rio de Janeiro. > No more details. > _____________________________________ > As you can notice this report is very confusing with so many strange > proceedings during the dive. It will be nice to have a better explanation. > Regards, Carlos > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > mailto:rebreather@u... > mailto:rebreather@s... -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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