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Michael,

On Fri, 13 Sep 200213, at 43:03 [GMT ] (01:03 14. september 3605 where I
live), you [M] wrote:
M> But if the only rebreather accidents that are counted are those where
M> the rebreather has to break before it become a rebreather accident
M> then there are almost no rebreather accidents, which we both know to
M> be BS.

Maybe you should read what I wrote again?

,----- [ I wrote ]
| When discussing rebreather accidents, one must distinguish between two
| types:
| - The accident occurs as a direct/indirect consequence of the rebreather
| in question
| - The accident _might_ just as well have been on OC.
`-----

I still believe that the recent RB80 accident had nothing to do with the
fact that they were on RB80s. OK, the task loading is greater but I
would still not say that the RB80 is to blame for the accident. From
what I gather, the neck seal was the main culprit. It stated the
incident spiral.

M> As George has repeatedly said, a rebreather is a tool to use when the
M> mission objectives cannot be attained with any other means. All
M> rebreathers are deadly, all rebreathers are dangerous to greater or
M> lesser degrees, some are better than others, but they are all more
M> dangerous than standard Open Circuit equipment.

I have never argued otherwise.

M> As far as the number of accidents per rebreather sold goes, 

M> I doubt that Halcyon has sold 20 RB80s, that's a 10% accident rate

There you are probably mistaken.

M> A far as the Halycon PVR-BASC (refridgerator) goes, I also doubt that
M> more than 20 were sold, that's a 5% accident rate.

Same.

M> Then comes the CisLunar Mk 5, 3 deaths total.

M> Next is the CisLunar Mk3, 1 death.

M> Buddy Inspirations have been hanging in there for years with accident
M> rates around or less than 1% for years

You are mixing things up:
There are deaths and there are accidents.

Neither of us knows of all accident on any breather, so it makes no
sense discussing that (Cf Wittgenstein)

There have been a number of deaths on the Inspiration. In most cases, we
do not know what happened because the diver was solo.

You are comparing Halcyon accidents with Inspiration deaths - apples and
oranges!

-- 
<greeting> Best regards </greeting> 
<author> Peter Fjelsten </author>
<location> Århus C, Denmark </location>


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