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From: "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
To: <JCarlCalvin@ao*.co*>, <trey@my*.ne*>, <jim@sh*.ne*>,
    
Cc: <quest@gu*.co*>, <vbtech@ci*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Cheap parts - video? RE: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:34:39 -0400
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John, these are very simple devices ( that is why we use them in the WKPP),

but the problems rarely have intuitive solutions. For instance, as I showed

you when I was out there, when you remove the clutch , you must replace the

screw for two reasons: one, the fine threads strip out and the washer stack

pops pop off ( making the prop set fall off) , and two, if the screw slot

buggers at all, you will not be able to get it off without removing the

motor next time. A 5 cent solution, but you have to know that, and you guys

asked, and so we bought a handful of new screws at the marine store where

you keep the boat.. The owner's manual has these and other tricks of the

trade as well as the protocols used in the WKPP in case of problems with

scooters. We dive long distance with several vehicles at once, and have

seen it all, and we always come back..

JT is not going to be that lucky because he is too proud to ask me, and

nobody has the knowledge and experience with these things that I have. He

would rather climb a tree to listen to an idiot than stand on the ground

and hear the real thing, but then that is evident to all.

The more you dive seriously, the more you will appreciate why I make the

scooters for the WKPP - my life depends on it, and the more of these things

I handle, build, repair or use, the more issues I see form the hundreds of

users out there, the more secure I get about what I am doing with them. The

little details are everything. Most of these things I never hear about

again once they go out. I just serviced one for Todd Kincaid. The motor was

dated 1987, and I merely took it out of his scooter, put it in one of Mike

Madden's Mako's without even having to change the seal , and installed a

new rewind in Todd's. I just checked out one of Casey McKinlays that is ten

years old for a big dive we were doing, and found nothing to fix. I also

put new batteries in 3 of Jarrod's with one of them needing a trigger

adjustment.



  -----Original Message-----
  From: JCarlCalvin@ao*.co* [mailto:JCarlCalvin@ao*.co*]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:07 AM
  To: trey@my*.ne*; jim@sh*.ne*; captjt@mi*.co*
  Cc: quest@gu*.co*; vbtech@ci*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
  Subject: Re: Cheap parts - video? RE: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova
Tech


  George:

  Garry Wilson and I dive your Gavins on every dive and have for many
months.  We have had numerous problems because we are constantly pushing
them to the limit.  The worst was a prop coming off at 297' in depth and
2000 feet from the boat (funny how fast a fin in the prop will cause a
problem).  The other scooter brought us home safe and sound.

  We are satisfied with the equipment and especially the support and
improvements.  I don't think either Garry or myself are mentally deficient
in selecting and testing dive gear and we don't lack the funds to buy the
best.  Now why do you suppose we are still using Gavins?

  I know someone is going to say we are just kissing George's ass.  I am 58
and retired to Hawaii when I was 55.  Garry is 62 and retired way back.  We
both work here for the fun of it and couldn't care less who is popular or
even powerful in the diving world.

  Regards,

  John.

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<P>John, these are very simple devices ( that is why we use them in the=20
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<P>but the problems rarely have intuitive solutions. For instance, as I=20
showed</P>
<P>you when I was out there, when you remove the clutch , you must =
replace=20
the</P>
<P>screw for two reasons: one, the fine threads strip out and the washer =

stack</P>
<P>pops pop off ( making the prop set fall off) , and two, if the screw =
slot</P>
<P>buggers at all, you will not be able to get it off without removing =
the</P>
<P>motor next time. A 5 cent solution, but you have to know that, and =
you=20
guys</P>
<P>asked, and so we bought a handful of new screws at the marine store =
where</P>
<P>you keep the boat.. The owner's manual has these and other tricks of =
the</P>
<P>trade as well as the protocols used in the WKPP in case of problems =
with</P>
<P>scooters. We dive long distance with several vehicles at once, and =
have</P>
<P>seen it all, and we always come back..</P>
<P>JT is not going to be that lucky because he is too proud to ask me, =
and</P>
<P>nobody has the knowledge and experience with these things that I =
have. He</P>
<P>would rather climb a tree to listen to an idiot than stand on the =
ground</P>
<P>and hear the real thing, but then that is evident to all.</P>
<P>The more you dive seriously, the more you will appreciate why I make =
the</P>
<P>scooters for the WKPP - my life depends on it, and the more of these=20
things</P>
<P>I handle, build, repair or use, the more issues I see form the =
hundreds=20
of</P>
<P>users out there, the more secure I get about what I am doing with =
them.=20
The</P>
<P>little details are everything. Most of these things I never hear =
about</P>
<P>again once they go out. I just serviced one for Todd Kincaid. The =
motor=20
was</P>
<P>dated 1987, and I merely took it out of his scooter, put it in one of =

Mike</P>
<P>Madden's Mako's without even having to change the seal , and =
installed a</P>
<P>new rewind in Todd's. I just checked out one of Casey McKinlays that =
is=20
ten</P>
<P>years old for a big dive we were doing, and found nothing to fix. I =
also</P>
<P>put new batteries in 3 of Jarrod's with one of them needing a =
trigger</P>
<P>adjustment.</P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial
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<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
JCarlCalvin@ao*.co*=20
  [mailto:JCarlCalvin@ao*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 13,
2002 =
1:07=20
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> trey@my*.ne*; jim@sh*.ne*;=20
  captjt@mi*.co*<BR><B>Cc:</B> quest@gu*.co*; =
vbtech@ci*.co*;=20
  techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Cheap parts - video?
RE: =
Cut to=20
  the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT=20
  face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial size=3D2=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">George:<BR><BR>Garry Wilson and I dive your =
Gavins on every=20
  dive and have for many months.  We have had numerous problems =
because we=20
  are constantly pushing them to the limit.  The worst was a prop =
coming=20
  off at 297' in depth and 2000 feet from the boat (funny how fast a fin =
in the=20
  prop will cause a problem).  The other scooter brought us home =
safe and=20
  sound.<BR><BR>We are satisfied with the equipment and especially the =
support=20
  and improvements.  I don't think either Garry or myself are =
mentally=20
  deficient in selecting and testing dive gear and we don't lack the =
funds to=20
  buy the best.  Now why do you suppose we are still using =
Gavins?<BR><BR>I=20
  know someone is going to say we are just kissing George's ass.  I =
am 58=20
  and retired to Hawaii when I was 55.  Garry is 62 and retired way =

  back.  We both work here for the fun of it and couldn't care less =
who is=20
  popular or even powerful in the diving=20
  world.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>John.</FONT> =
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