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----- Original Message -----
From: "dmdalton" <dmdalton2000@ya*.co*>
To: "Duane Liptak Jr." <dliptakjr@ea*.ne*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>;
"'Quest@Gu*. Com'" <quest@gu*.co*>; "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
Cc: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: George's Scooter Support / WAS - Cheap parts?


> I've watched this thread for some time an now feel it
> is necessary to post.
>
> I bought one of the new Gavin wreck diving scooters
> from George as part of the VB Tech crowd. George was
> extremely helpful during, as well as after the
> purchase.  He made every effort to get the scooters to
> the folks up here in the quickest possible time. Mine
> arrived in less than 5 days after order.
>
> Mine has the appropriate clutch for my use. To say
> that I (or others) was (were) given less than what I
> (they) thought we were going to get in the product is
> to say that you didn't get the trailer towing package
> on your new pick-up truck when a) you never plan to
> pull a trailer, b)never ordered the package, and c)
> never paid for the package.
>
> Now that I know that there is a different clutch
> available I have NO plans to order it as mine works
> great and I don't plan to do the type of diving that
> George says the other clutch is necessary for.  In
> other words I'm not pulling a trailer, so I have no
> need for the trailer pulling package. So I don't know
> why someone would order the towing package (more
> expensive & finicky clutch) if you aren't pulling a
> trailer.  I'll take the recommendations of the
> manufacturer.
>
> After I first used the scooter I found it took in a
> small amount of water. I called George, told him the
> problem and let HIM diagnose it. He told me the
> solution and shipped me a replacement nose cone that
> day, no charge. I took the scooter out with the new
> nose cone and problem solved!
>
> Todd got his scooter about a month before I got mine.
> He had a minor problem of the switch not working
> properly depending on the attitude of the scooter.
> Being an electronics wiz (a former Nuclear Reactor
> Operator for the US Navy), he diagnosed it on the spot
> while I watched.  Then, instead of trying to kludge up
> a fix, he called George, explained the situation and
> asked what to do.  George explained to him how to
> adjust the reed switch in 20 seconds and problem
> solved.
>
> As far as I know, EVERYONE who contacted George
> directly was taken care of with no problem. It would
> seem that the only one who has a problem in dealing
> with George on scooters is JT, who has not purchased a
> scooter from George but has one he got from someone
> else.
>
> Yes JT has had, and destroyed, more scooters than most
> folks have ever owned.  And while JT has 3 scooters,
> he uses one of George's he got from someone else
> because his other two are in pieces.  He has pretty
> well destroyed them while trying to re-design his
> Apollos into "Gavin look alikes". However, when I last
> saw one of then in April, it looked a bit more like
> the "Bride of Frankenstein".
>
> Dave Dalton
>
>
> --- Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> wrote:
> > Hi Duane
> > So you really see no problem with him selling Gavins
> > with parts in them
> > that he does not even use in his own. The scooters
> > are said to be the best,
> > they are even advertised as having gold
> > superconnectors, with all of these
> > statements a 5 dollars plastic clutch is put in it
> > and sent to the buyer.
> > You telling me that's OK with you, did he do it to
> > you? I saw nothing on
> > the options page about a choice in clutches, only a
> > mention in the owners
> > manual part and it does not say anything in great
> > detail about it, only how
> > to set the clutch with the washers and such. No cost
> > is found for it in
> > pricing, unless someone who already knows this stuff
> > tells you, you buy the
> > scooter blind to this fact. Hopefully now everyone
> > is aware of this and
> > know what to ask for.......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >    At 11:20 PM 8/7/02 -0500, Duane Liptak Jr. wrote:
> > >The whole Gavin maintenance deal is really
> > simplified once you understand
> > >that the things are virtual tanks, if anything IS
> > wrong, it's probably
> > >something that the operator screwed up because they
> > didn't know how it
> > >worked, and that if there is a problem, ask Trey,
> > without TELLING him what
> > >you think the diagnosis should be.  Cotton in the
> > appropriate place, if
> > >necessary.  He'll of course know exactly what the
> > problem is, and you'll be
> > >back on the trigger in no time.  The only problem
> > I've really had with mine
> > >is wearing out blades by diving the shit out of
> > them.  I, of course, thought
> > >that I had screwed something up, but a phone call
> > to Trey, new blades a
> > >couple of days later, and viola...back in the
> > saddle.
> > >
> > >Duane
> > >
> > >Subject: RE: Cheap parts - video? RE: Cut to the
> > chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova
> > >Tech
> > >
> > >
> > > > I had a few problems with the reed in mine. I
> > was told by JT (the other
> > > > JT) that George was using the new more expensive
> > reed because of
> > > > pressure from customers who were being swayed by
> > the fact that Rodney
> > > > uses a quality reed whereas George's old
> > scooters just used a cheap
> > > > Radio Shack one, even though the cheap one
> > worked fine. But apparently
> > > > the more expensive one is more finicky so, on
> > Jim's advice (relayed from
> > > > George) I threw it away and replaced it with the
> > cheap one - no more
> > > > problems.
> > > >
> > > > And George was nothing but helpful in getting
> > the problems sorted out -
> > > > even sending me a free replacement relay when I
> > insisted that I thought
> > > > the problem was in there (George said it would
> > be the reed from the
> > > > start - should've listened).
> > > >
> > > > Ian
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Jim
> > > > > I will not say the scooters are not fun and do
> > not get the job done.
> > > > What
> > > > > happen was 2 of the scooters would stick on or
> > not come on. George
> > > > said to
> > > > > rotate the reed switch, this worked for one.
> > The other would still
> > > > stick
> > > > > on, I told the guy he had a bad switch or
> > something. We also found
> > > > that
> > > > > the
> > > > > latch was placed right over the switch and if
> > you unclipped it the
> > > > scooter
> > > > > would finally cut off. The only thing we could
> > figure was that the
> > > > > pressure
> > > > > from the latch was distorting the reed switch.
> > The guy email this to
> > > > > George
> > > > > and George pounded him on "How the hell is the
> > water pressure doing
> > > > that",
> > > > > some kind of communication break down happened
> > and the guy didn't want
> > > > to
> > > > > get pounded by G again, so I told him to just
> > tell G to send another
> > > > > switch
> > > > > and just pay for it. That fixed the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > The clutches are a separate issue, I do not
> > think anyone knew they
> > > > would
> > > > > be
> > > > > getting a cheap clutch or that there was a
> > different one that G uses.
> > > > All
> > > > > the guys saw was the one that Cobb got and it
> > worked fine, the
> > > > following
> > > > > ones had minor problems, one ran
> > backwards....... I did not even know
> > > > > about
> > > > > the scooters needing a better clutch and one
> > would think that G would
> > > > not
> > > > > even offer them to anyone with less than the
> > best parts.
> > > > >
> > > > >   Rodney no longer puts the slower motor in
> > his because of the posting
> > > > I
> > > > > put out on how slow Christina's was. Now the
> > buyer will only get the
> > > > best
> > > > > and does not have an option, G needs to do the
> > same thing so the buyer
> > > > > does
> > > > > not feel short changed.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> =====
> Dave Dalton
>
> "You just can't show up for "Game Day" and expect to win.
>   You've got to go to practice if you want to be ready!"
>
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