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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@in*.at*.ne*>, <inspriation@dr*.ne*>,
     "Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com" ,
     "Quest@Gu*. Com"
Subject: Still Don't Get It?
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 07:14:36 -0400
Tom Mouth wrote:

            "Rebreather units the halcyon or any passive system is more
similar to OC diving
and thus are more forgiving. But they are also much less capable and much
heavier to dive with on technical dives and they do not have as many
bailout
options.  But they like all rebreathers require additional maintance and
TLC.
There have been Halcyon close calls and one death. . Any rebreather can
malfunction but almost always it ts the diver not the unit that has the
malfunction"

******

Tom, this is one of your more ignorant posts. The Halcyon 80 is the size of
an aluminum 80 tank. Your idiotic comment about the Halcyon being "much
less capable" is not supported by the facts: FACT - the halcyon 80 holds
all the distance records in caves everywhere, and neither you nor your band
of strokes that you have trained has ever come close to touching any dives
done with the halcyon, and they never will.

The "halcyon death" was one of the people not trained by ( broke Rule
Number One) us who was in fact pulled to the surface from a deep dive by
the stroke he was diving with on open circuit, and had nothing to do with
his rebreather. Typical weak attempt out of people like you who can not
support an
argument with any facts while the rest of the abortions out there all have
massive body counts.

The other fact is that I have banned you and IANTD from ever teaching the
halcyon RB 80, and that is because you are too stupid to teach it. When you
did teach the old halcyon, I had to intervene on your stupid ass to make
you teach it with open circuit after we busted you trying to teach it while
using a
Cis Lunar CCR. By the way, which rebreather are you pushing now? I'd like to
have a nickel for every piece of "kit" you have recommended that you either
never tried yourself, which did not work, or which subsequently went right
out of business.

You just posted a mindless litany of slathering stupidity without being able
to grasp
the real story with your little tiny pea brain - the deaths on CCR have all
been solo diving, and that is the big problem. Forget the rest of
the convoluted nonsense one has to go through with them, the fact is that
all of those people would be alive today if they were not listening to
try hards like you who don't get it.

Tom, please, don't you remember the question on the test you and I took
which you got right and I failed for getting wrong? That question was "what
kills more rebreather divers". I answered "Rule Number One" since
effectively that is what kills almost everyone, and you answered "task
loading". Then you get on here and say that the poor guy who died recently
solo diving was "task loaded" by his students and so failed to do whatever
to see that his rb was less than ok, and then you go on to say that this is
why you require an instructor who is teaching while using a rebreather to be
a rebreather instructor.

Here is the deal Tom - I failed the rebreather paper test, you failed the
real life test. The problem is real life failure of the test means death.
See my story about the record dive where I remembered the rebreather test
question while dealing with an amount of gear and tasks that none of you can
fathom. Your boy was so pissed at Bill Mee and me when we busted out
laughing in his face over that question. Now it comes up again after 30 odd
real life human deaths that you and the rest are still "waiting for the
autopsy" on.

What you have done to diving is a disgrace, and I will keep reminding
everyone that you have never done a real dive in your entire life, have
zero experience with anything of the magnitude that any of the Halcyon
divers do on a routine basis,and you have been spending your entire live
running your mouth while doing nothing and hence the nickname that Sheck
Exley gave you, "Tom Mouth".

You are one seriously self-deluded clown. Please retire and hopefully
somebody with a clue
will unwind the damage you have done. And don't bother sending me any of
your threatening to "kick my ass" messages. You are getting a little too
old to be sending those out. And don't be Tai Chi breathing on me either.

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