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In your message dated Saturday 15, April 1995 you wrote :
> At 10:04 AM 4/15/95, Chris Hellas wrote:
>
> [stuff deleted for brevity]
>
> >What we do not have is education beyond initial certification. Divers pass
> >the theory, demonstrate certain in water skills & then are let loose waving
> >a C card. I know lots of instructors who care enough to advise students on
> >the way foreward and ensure that they have a 'feel' for a particular mindset
> >that will hopefully mean the student will progress in a logical manner.
> >I suppose we are back to sounding elitist, but I still think that Trimix
> >is not for mass market consumption.
>
> Can't you say all of the same things about a PADI OW certification? I don't
> see how this specifically relates to technical diving, or the gas you breath.
> There are lots of recreational air divers in Cancun and Cozumel that shouldn't
> be diving either ;). I think you're describing a training problem that can
> occur in any type of diving.
>
> I'm not familiar with the UK requirements, but over here a trimix cert.
> is a pretty rigourous program. My instructor lists the following:
>
> (Note, I've omitted physiological and legal requirements)
>
> -------
> Basic reqs for level 1 deep air, 160' w/O2 decom. 5 days.
> (pre-req for levels 2 and 3):
>
> Minimum of 100 logged dives, with 20 between 100 and 130 fsw.
> EANx user certification with 10 logged EANx dives.
>
> Level 2 deep air, 190' w/O2 decom. 4 days
>
> Minimum 125 logged dives, with 10 between 130 and 160 fsw.
> EANx user and level 1 deep air cert with 10 dives in each area.
>
> Level 3 trimix, 190'+ (250' training) w/EANx & O2 decom. 5 days
>
> Minimum 175 logged dives, with 10 between 160 and 190 fsw.
> EANx user, Level 1 and Level 2 cert with 10 dives in each area.
>
> ------
>
> Most non professional divers would take about a year to get through
> these three courses and would have at least 2 years practical diving before
> they started. On top of that it'll cost them about $2500.00 + C card
> purchases. Plus they need to own all of their own equipment before they
> take the level 3 course (add another $5000.00 to $10,000.00). I think
> it's also interesting to note that the courses require you to *use*
> your previous certification before you can go on to the next level.
> You can't take the courses back to back in 15 days.
>
> Given the significant cost/training barriers, even if trimix were to
> become 'fashionable' I can't see many people getting certified on a
> lark. I was told that there are only about 700 IANTD certified trimix
> divers worldwide. That doesn't seem like enough to be called a
> 'fashion'.
>
> Maybe you need to stiffen up your training requirements?
>
> Scott.
>
>
Scott
The figures you quote are acedemic. All that money does not make
you skilled.
What is considered proof of experience? Logged dives? Verified by
who?................
I was merely passing comment over a specific incident back home. What of the
'self taught'
Trimix divers I bumped into recently. I agree wholeheartidley with your
sentiments, but
I think the PADI open water scenarion is slightly different. Here we have
divers who can
already dive - a little knowledge can be dangerous.
As far as the UK goes, we @ IANTD over here apply the international std's.
Regards
Chris
>
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