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This seem strange when the reason cave divers cave dive is because they=20=
get seasick. Cave diving is stupid. Ocean diving comes from a love of=20
the sea. Cave diving comes from a love of narcosis. Admit it Doug, the=20=
vast majority of cave divers are nothing but a bunch of narcosis addicts=20=
who want the buzz without the hassle and expense of a boat trip.
Just yanking your chain, Doug. I agree that a cave course can do nothing=20=
but make a wreck diver a better diver. I already paid Andrew G. $275 to=20=
prove this to me.
Jim
On Monday, August 5, 2002, at 01:17 PM, Doug Chapman wrote:
> =46rom Jim Cobb:
> Tech dives up here take days of planning and coordination and are not
> considered afternoon larks like you FL divers. The dives are deep, =
dark
> and cold. You could spend weeks preparing, be geared up, tanked up =
with
> HE the night before and have the dive called. What do you do then? You
> suck it up and get ready for the next trip.
>
> You Florida knuckleheads would be whining and moaning the whole way.
> Everytime you MF's come up here you spend the whole trip out and back
> barfing over the side rolled up in a green ball.
> ------------------ End Jim Cobb ----------------------------
> =A0
> Ho humm!!!!
> Saw a couple "planning and coordinated" NE divers=A0this weekend.=20
> Actually I didn't see them that well; they managed to silt up a clear=20=
> system because they had no buoyancy control or efficient swim=20
> techniques dragging their stage bottles along. They're big dive of =
1434=20
> ft required a stage. Ours (4450 ft)=A0was on back gas only and we =
still=20
> had enough left over (following 1/3rd's rule) for a=A0second dive that=20=
> was farther than the big time NE divers' with stages. My divers were=20=
> only apprentice level; I'm sure the NE boys were big time divers=A0with =
a=20
> bag full of certs and experience.
> =A0
> The "cut to the chase" bottom line that is so hard for the wanna bees=20=
> to swallow is the best technical divers are=A0top-shelf cave divers. =
The=20
> best NE divers are the ones who are good cave divers who were trained=20=
> by instructors who know their shit (and will flunk the losers). With a=20=
> few exceptions, they are from FL. Ask yourself where the real=20
> techniques and relevant equipment improvements came from. The things=20=
> Jim mentions (e.g. deep, dark, cold, planning, blowouts, etc.) are par=20=
> for the course and no big deal. The difference is some divers choose=20=
> to=A0just handle it without worrying too much about it and trying to =
make=20
> it into something it is not. My suggestion, Jim, is to get your skill=20=
> level up and maybe you can carry one of my dive apprentice's tanks for=20=
> him. Then you will understand how ridiculous all this whining is :-)
> =A0
> Take care,
> Doug
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This seem strange when the reason cave divers cave dive is because
they get seasick. Cave diving is stupid. Ocean diving comes from a
love of the sea. Cave diving comes from a love of narcosis. Admit it
Doug, the vast majority of cave divers are nothing but a bunch of
narcosis addicts who want the buzz without the hassle and expense of a
boat trip.
Just yanking your chain, Doug. I agree that a cave course can do
nothing but make a wreck diver a better diver. I already paid Andrew
G. $275 to prove this to me.
Jim
On Monday, August 5, 2002, at 01:17 PM, Doug Chapman wrote:
<excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>=46rom Jim
Cobb:
Tech dives up here take days of planning and coordination and are not
considered afternoon larks like you FL divers. The dives are deep, dark
and cold. You could spend weeks preparing, be geared up, tanked up with
HE the night before and have the dive called. What do you do then? You
suck it up and get ready for the next trip.
You Florida knuckleheads would be whining and moaning the whole way.
Everytime you MF's come up here you spend the whole trip out and back
barfing over the side rolled up in a green ball.
------------------ End Jim Cobb ----------------------------
=A0
Ho humm!!!!
Saw a couple "planning and coordinated" NE divers=A0this weekend.
Actually I didn't see them that well; they managed to silt up a clear
system because they had no buoyancy control or efficient swim
techniques dragging their stage bottles along. They're big dive of
1434 ft required a stage. Ours (4450 ft)=A0was on back gas only and we
still had enough left over (following 1/3rd's rule) for a=A0second dive
that was farther than the big time NE divers' with stages. My divers
were only apprentice level; I'm sure the NE boys were big time
divers=A0with a bag full of certs and experience.
=A0
The "cut to the chase" bottom line that is so hard for the wanna bees
to swallow is the best technical divers are=A0top-shelf cave divers. The
best NE divers are the ones who are good cave divers who were trained
by instructors who know their shit (and will flunk the losers). With a
few exceptions, they are from FL. Ask yourself where the real
techniques and relevant equipment improvements came from. The things
Jim mentions (e.g. deep, dark, cold, planning, blowouts, etc.) are par
for the course and no big deal. The difference is some divers choose
to=A0just handle it without worrying too much about it and trying to
make it into something it is not. My suggestion, Jim, is to get your
skill level up and maybe you can carry one of my dive apprentice's
tanks for him. Then you will understand how ridiculous all this
whining is :-)
=A0
Take care,
Doug
</smaller></fontfamily></excerpt>=
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