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From: "Doug Chapman" <dougch@ea*.ne*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:17:19 -0400
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From Jim Cobb:
Tech dives up here take days of planning and coordination and are not=20
considered afternoon larks like you FL divers. The dives are deep, dark=20
and cold. You could spend weeks preparing, be geared up, tanked up with=20
HE the night before and have the dive called. What do you do then? You=20
suck it up and get ready for the next trip.

You Florida knuckleheads would be whining and moaning the whole way.=20
Everytime you MF's come up here you spend the whole trip out and back=20
barfing over the side rolled up in a green ball.
------------------ End Jim Cobb ----------------------------

Ho humm!!!!=20
Saw a couple "planning and coordinated" NE divers this weekend. Actually =
I didn't see them that well; they managed to silt up a clear system =
because they had no buoyancy control or efficient swim techniques =
dragging their stage bottles along. They're big dive of 1434 ft required =
a stage. Ours (4450 ft) was on back gas only and we still had enough =
left over (following 1/3rd's rule) for a second dive that was farther =
than the big time NE divers' with stages. My divers were only apprentice =
level; I'm sure the NE boys were big time divers with a bag full of =
certs and experience.

The "cut to the chase" bottom line that is so hard for the wanna bees to =
swallow is the best technical divers are top-shelf cave divers. The best =
NE divers are the ones who are good cave divers who were trained by =
instructors who know their shit (and will flunk the losers). With a few =
exceptions, they are from FL. Ask yourself where the real techniques and =
relevant equipment improvements came from. The things Jim mentions (e.g. =
deep, dark, cold, planning, blowouts, etc.) are par for the course and =
no big deal. The difference is some divers choose to just handle it =
without worrying too much about it and trying to make it into something =
it is not. My suggestion, Jim, is to get your skill level up and maybe =
you can carry one of my dive apprentice's tanks for him. Then you will =
understand how ridiculous all this whining is :-)

Take care,
Doug

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From Jim Cobb:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Tech dives up here take days of
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planning and=20
coordination and are not <BR>considered afternoon larks like you FL =
divers. The=20
dives are deep, dark <BR>and cold. You could spend weeks preparing, be =
geared=20
up, tanked up with <BR>HE the night before and have the dive called. =
What do you=20
do then? You <BR>suck it up and get ready for the next
trip.<BR><BR>You =
Florida=20
knuckleheads would be whining and moaning the whole way. <BR>Everytime =
you MF's=20
come up here you spend the whole trip out and back <BR>barfing over the =
side=20
rolled up in a green ball.<BR>------------------ End Jim Cobb=20
----------------------------</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Ho humm!!!!
</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Saw a couple "planning and =
coordinated" NE=20
divers this weekend. Actually I didn't see them that well; they =
managed to=20
silt up a clear system because they had no buoyancy control or efficient =
swim=20
techniques dragging their stage bottles along. They're big dive of 1434 =
ft=20
required a stage. Ours (4450 ft) was on back gas only and we still =
had=20
enough left over (following 1/3rd's rule) for a second dive that =
was=20
farther than the big time NE divers' with stages. My divers were only =
apprentice=20
level; I'm sure the NE boys were big time divers with a bag full of =
certs=20
and experience.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT
size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D+0><FONT size=3D2>The "cut to
the =
chase" bottom=20
line that is so hard for the wanna bees to swallow is the best technical =
divers=20
are top-shelf cave divers. The best NE divers are the ones who are =
good=20
cave divers who were trained by instructors who know their shit (and =
will flunk=20
the losers). With a few exceptions, they are from FL. Ask yourself where =
the=20
real techniques and relevant equipment improvements came from. The =
things Jim=20
mentions (e.g. deep, dark, cold, planning, blowouts, etc.) are par for =
the=20
course and no big deal. The difference is some divers choose =
to just handle=20
it without worrying too much about it and trying to make it into =
something it is=20
not. My suggestion, Jim, is to get your skill level up and maybe you can =
carry=20
one of my dive apprentice's tanks for him.</FONT></FONT><FONT
size=3D2> =
Then you=20
will understand how ridiculous all this whining is =
:-)</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Take
care,</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
size=3D2>Doug</FONT></FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML
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