I know you know, just talking to my favorite audience up there. I will write
up something about this and send it out - running late right now.

-----Original Message-----
From: wendell grogan [mailto:docgrog@ya*.de*]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:31 PM
To: George Irvine; Joe; Jim Cobb; Christian Gerzner
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech


I guess I misspoke.  What I am strongly advocating is
what you point out.  Everywhere else in the world, no
one ties up to a wreck in a current, tells everyone to
pull themselves along the granny line, then down the
anchor line, returning after the dive to hang on for
dear life while trying to deco.  There is no real
excuse for it, my concern is how to implement the
change.  I've been getting alot of good advice on how
its done, but we are working on creating a critical
mass of divers that can get a boat to do it the right
way.
We are going to have to unlearn a few things and learn
a few, it will take a little practice, mainly in team
organization, but like someone told me a short while
ago on a related subject- An idea whose time is come
will sell itself.
Wendell
--- George Irvine <trey@my*.ne*> wrote:
> Wendell, the only thing that distinguishes "up here"
> from the rest of the
> world is that "up here" the monkeys are running the
> zoo. You all appear to
> actually believe that what works in Seattle, Los
> Angeles, England,
> Scotland, Norway, Sweden, Germany , France, Italy ,
> Croatia, Thailand,
> Taiwan, Japan, Australia, Brazil, Mexico, Hawaii,
> the Philippines, Alaska,
> Canada and Florida ,Texas, the Gulf of Mexico, etc,
> etc  will somehow not
> work in the NE United States, which is defined as
> where the worst idiots in
> diving with the world's worst track records continue
> to do the same stupid
> things over an over while expecting different
> results.
>
> Truly an amazing mindset for a locale which is the
> upper end of the
> socioeconomic food chain. In fact, beyond the pale
> and completely
> ridiculous.
>
> One of the bodies that I went fishing for was a guy
> with an MBA from one of
> the big schools who was a derivatives trader at
> Morgan Stanley and then at
> Banker's Trust. He decided that "tech diving" was
> going to be his thing, so
> he went to the monkeys and ended up dead. The whole
> NE dive mess reminds me
> of not only the Star Wars Bar Scene, but of
> Hemingway's story, "The Short
> Happy Life of Francis Macomber", a wannabe a tough
> guy who went big game
> hunting in Africa with some NE wreck diver-type
> guide, and who at first ran
> when charged by a Cape Buffalo, but then at the
> direction of the wreck
> diver stood his ground and shot , only to be run
> over and killed by the
> next Buffalo.
>
> Let me suggest you all either run, or get it right
> and then go buffalo
> hunting, and let the roofers and valet parkers who
> run and influence diving
> up there go stage their SWBS by themselves. Stop
> making excuses for idiots
> under the guise of "discussion". I grew up in New
> England - I know better,
> and obviously so do a lot of other people in this
> world.
>
> By the way, my partner in my business ( bonds, not
> dive gear as "capt" JT
> suggests ), speaks Chinese. He is Irish, but I hear
> him speaking Chinese on
> the phone now and then when he is checking up on who
> did what in Asia by
> calling traders in Hong Kong. To me, his Chinese
> sounds perfect. However, if
> I wanted to learn Chinese, I don't think I would
> learn from him, now would
> I, since I don't know what good Chinese sounds like?
>
> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 20:09:35 -0700 (PDT)
> From: wendell grogan <docgrog@ya*.de*>
> Subject: Re: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> Sure its simple, but you have to have boat operators
> and divers who are practiced in it because up here
> things end up in the pooper scooper real fast.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wendell grogan [mailto:docgrog@ya*.de*]
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:10 PM
> To: Joe; Jim Cobb; Christian Gerzner
> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
>
>
> Sure its simple, but you have to have boat operators
> and divers who are practiced in it because up here
> things end up in the pooper scooper real fast.
>


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