Michal, there are links to their web sites on the GavinScooters.com web page, and probably on the WKPP.org web page. I will check with Pina if that is not the case. Just click on any mention of Michael and Reinhard and that should go to the right websites. Here is one to start with : http://www.tekdyk.dk/doux/ ----Original Message----- From: michal.caro@ci*.co* [mailto:michal.caro@ci*.co*] Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:59 AM To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Cc: girvine@be*.ne* Subject: RE: George - Since the GUE NE pissing contest really isn't going anywhere..... George, I have never heard about WKPP Europe. I would like to know more about it. Where they are located? What are they goals? Could I find something on the web? Thanks in advance, regards, Michal P.S.: Just to remind that I'm on the list only few weeks. I have tried the archive, but unsuccessfully. -----Original Message----- From: girvine [mailto:girvine@be*.ne*] Sent: Wednesday,July 24,2002 12:24 PM To: Art.Paltz; quest Cc: girvine; techdiver Subject: RE: George - Since the GUE NE pissing contest really isn't going anywhere..... Art, WKPP members have been doing dives in various places outside of the Woodville Karst Plain for practice while we wait for out conditions to improve enough to explore. Jarrod , Casey and I are of the mindset that we do not want to expose ourselves or the team to the risk of large scale operations where serious objectives are not going to be achieved. In other words, we do not want to risk killing anyone for nothing. On the other hand, Jarrod, Casey and I have been diving together , working out some logistics for the more difficult sites that we dive where we have no escape from in-water deco and are in the cave all the way until the very last stop which is still in water, and yes, we have been adding line and extending Leon Sinks Cave System, but we are not talking about it due to the constant efforts by the "community" to interfere, and due to the fact that we are using only our top pros. We will run the more visible dives at Wakulla some time soon, as we do have leads to explore , but they start at 17,000 feet of penetration, so again the three of us do not want to take the physical beating and risk the team unless the water is for sure clear enough to get something done back there and not just bounce off of the walls. We have done some very serious dives lately, but do not want to discuss them at the moment. We also have been working on lights, scooters, rebreathers etc with an eye towards more effective exploration tools. Reinhard and Michael are doing all the same as they prepare WKPP Europe for an assault on their own record with the team they have been building. The two wings of the organization now are more focused on fine tuning the tricks as we can clearly see that the bar is about to be raised in the systems we are diving. In Europe, the water is colder and the caves are more up and down. Here, the caves are just ridiculously deep and we have no prospects of finding sinkholes for miles in front of us. In both cases, how we handle these challenges will define this sport for years to come. In the meantime, Pina and I have been doing our regular after work dives here and have been diving as much as possible whenever Jarrod and I are not diving. -----Original Message----- From: Art.Paltz@R2*.CO* [mailto:Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:54 PM To: girvine@be*.ne* Subject: George - Since the GUE NE pissing contest really isn't going anywhere..... Why not post on what the WKPP has been doing? Are the springs clear? Have you extended any of your leads? -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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