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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 21:31:31 -0400
To: christi5@ix*.ne*.co*
From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Subject: RE: FW: Survey of NE DiveBoats re: GUE acceptance.
Cc: christi5@ix*.ne*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com

At 12:45 PM 7/16/02 -0700, christi5@ix*.ne*.co* wrote:
>Hi Capt,
>I'm not sure how you can say that medical issues weren't issues at hand that
>had a major contributing factor in the deaths.

Christina
Why are so many divers having heart attacks on his boat, my guess is maybe 
a few things. I have been on the boat only 2 times, so if my guesses are 
wrong please let me know.

There is little help in gearing up, if you don't ask for it, you do not get 
it, ones ego will cause you to say I can do it myself.

Lack of a good assist line to the anchor line during current.

Poor physical condition.

Too much gear.

Lack of experience.

Any combination of the above.


>My questions still remain unanswered.  As the boat captain, what specific
>things should he do

Care about his divers.......... enough to piss them off, enough to get to 
know them, enough to tell them no, enough to expose them, become their best 
friend,lead by example.

>or require of the divers on these trips?

Require them to give up their dive to save another, require them to not do 
stupid things or you will tell everyone if they do, egos dislike being exposed.
Remember the guy who got bent on your Carolina Trip awhile back, by 
breaking the rules of the day and I exposed him to your private email 
list.........has he come back, has he done it again?


>  What criteria
>should disqualify a diver or group from being accepted on these types of
>dives, period?

Keeps you off the boat.....on deep trips
Lack of experience is number one, lack of being a team player is two ( when 
on a boat, like it or not, you are a team, don't think so.......let one die 
and see what happens to the rest of the boat), unwilling to play by the 
rules, past history of being a hotdog diver, places artifacts, gear, 
ect.... above life.

How did you get on my Ostfriesland trip? You were willing to do it my 
way...... gas, buddy, everything......... you are no where near DIR....... 
yet some of us are close and you fit in with us, why? My rules are of plain 
logic and you understand it.


>Cheers, Christina
>www.christinayoung.com
>
>On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:23:48 -0400 Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> wrote:
>
>
> >  What level of
> >screening should / can the captain be responsible for???  What level should
> >the groups chartering be responsible for?  Already the Seeker requires
>medical
> >
> >information, more than the Miss Lindsey ever asked me for.  Can they be
> >responsible if people lie about that, or should they have an EKG machine and
>a
> >
> >nurse taking your collesterol reading at the boat?
>
>These are not the issues at hand and bare little in the deaths of the divers.
>
>
> >  You yourself have said in the past that they run a good
> >operation (requires you to fill out a dive plan, have a boat that is 
> superbly
>
> >outfitted for those kinds of trips, etc etc etc).
>
>Yes, I said this.
>
> >  Now you are saying that his
> >
> >operations needs to be updated, as well as his clientele.  Can you elaborate
> >on this?  What specific items need updating and how, and how should he go
> >about "updating his clientele"?
>
>This is a hard thing to do, I did it when I took on the deepest trips the
>Miss Lindsey runs. In the past they had many close incidents. Even a death
>or 2.
>As long as you let divers do as they please, things will happen, as long as
>you let instructors, Trimix cards, and friends be your shield things will
>happen.
>
>When I began telling the truth of what divers did on our trips, they
>stopped coming if they were unwilling to change. You cannot dive to the
>deeper depths thinking you can leave your buddy, cut corners, have total
>faith in your RB without a back up plan, only care if the diver is not back
>on time ect........ ect.........
>
>Even now, when the boat is chartered by some, they ask I not be one of the
>Captains.........so they can do as they please, no one to tell what really
>happens.
>
>Everything that needs changing with the Seeker is within Danny himself, the
>way divers look at the dive will change because of him and no one else. As
>long as he does nothing on his present course divers will die, he must step
>up and say this is what you must do.........Let him get on a list or post
>photos on a site about the 3 going up the wrong line after they were told
>not to, and not tieing off, but drifting away, bash their ass, see if it
>happens again, do nothing and it will.............
>
>
> >Cheers, and I hope you can come up soon and dive,
> >Christina
> >www.christinayoung.com
> >
> >At Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:05:40 -0400 Capt JT wrote:
> >
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> >Trey, I could give a shit what you or the other guy says, I checked with
> >the CG......... TODAY....... to be sure I was correct. I only must walk
> >300ft from my office to the USCG Marine Safety Office where I work, they
> >are stationed inside the shipyard I am employed at......... They handle all
> >of the inspections for the SPV in this area.......... I discussed the
> >procedure for over an hour with them. Then I called and talked to the
> >pilots again in EC, NC......got the same answers they gave me at the safety
> >seminar.
> >
> >Sure Danny sucks shit for lieing, everyone who lies does......... Sure he
> >has the worst track record for deaths........You are the last person I want
> >to butt heads with, but I will not lie or change the facts of any event to
> >suit personal agendas.
> >Clearly his dive operation needs to be updated as well as some of his
> >clientele.
> >
> >There are 2 kinds of Captains, those that have already had an accident and
> >those that are about to. I have done everything possible to keep the trips
> >I'm on safe, but that does not ensure it will not happen. Must I endure the
> >same crap on these list if it happens to me and nothing I did was
> >wrong..........is that what you plan for me.
> >
> >The CG does not know jack shit about diving....... they know about boat
> >handling ect.......they rule over us Captains, cut and dry.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
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>water"
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