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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:45:04 -0700
From: <christi5@ix*.ne*.co*>
To: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
Cc: christi5@ix*.ne*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com, captjt@mi*.ne*
Subject: RE: FW: Survey of NE DiveBoats re: GUE acceptance.
Hi Capt,
I'm not sure how you can say that medical issues weren't issues at hand that
had a major contributing factor in the deaths.  As recently as the one last
week shows, it was a heart attack on the surface that happened.  And three of
the five Doria deaths.  Four of those last six deaths would have not taken
place if the deceased had been in better medical shape.

My questions still remain unanswered.  As the boat captain, what specific
things should he do or require of the divers on these trips?  What criteria
should disqualify a diver or group from being accepted on these types of
dives, period?

Cheers, Christina
www.christinayoung.com

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:23:48 -0400 Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> wrote:


>  What level of
>screening should / can the captain be responsible for???  What level should
>the groups chartering be responsible for?  Already the Seeker requires
medical
>
>information, more than the Miss Lindsey ever asked me for.  Can they be
>responsible if people lie about that, or should they have an EKG machine and
a
>
>nurse taking your collesterol reading at the boat?

These are not the issues at hand and bare little in the deaths of the divers.


>  You yourself have said in the past that they run a good
>operation (requires you to fill out a dive plan, have a boat that is superbly

>outfitted for those kinds of trips, etc etc etc).

Yes, I said this.

>  Now you are saying that his
>
>operations needs to be updated, as well as his clientele.  Can you elaborate
>on this?  What specific items need updating and how, and how should he go
>about "updating his clientele"?

This is a hard thing to do, I did it when I took on the deepest trips the 
Miss Lindsey runs. In the past they had many close incidents. Even a death 
or 2.
As long as you let divers do as they please, things will happen, as long as 
you let instructors, Trimix cards, and friends be your shield things will 
happen.

When I began telling the truth of what divers did on our trips, they 
stopped coming if they were unwilling to change. You cannot dive to the 
deeper depths thinking you can leave your buddy, cut corners, have total 
faith in your RB without a back up plan, only care if the diver is not back 
on time ect........ ect.........

Even now, when the boat is chartered by some, they ask I not be one of the 
Captains.........so they can do as they please, no one to tell what really 
happens.

Everything that needs changing with the Seeker is within Danny himself, the 
way divers look at the dive will change because of him and no one else. As 
long as he does nothing on his present course divers will die, he must step 
up and say this is what you must do.........Let him get on a list or post 
photos on a site about the 3 going up the wrong line after they were told 
not to, and not tieing off, but drifting away, bash their ass, see if it 
happens again, do nothing and it will.............


>Cheers, and I hope you can come up soon and dive,
>Christina
>www.christinayoung.com
>
>At Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:05:40 -0400 Capt JT wrote:
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>Trey, I could give a shit what you or the other guy says, I checked with
>the CG......... TODAY....... to be sure I was correct. I only must walk
>300ft from my office to the USCG Marine Safety Office where I work, they
>are stationed inside the shipyard I am employed at......... They handle all
>of the inspections for the SPV in this area.......... I discussed the
>procedure for over an hour with them. Then I called and talked to the
>pilots again in EC, NC......got the same answers they gave me at the safety
>seminar.
>
>Sure Danny sucks shit for lieing, everyone who lies does......... Sure he
>has the worst track record for deaths........You are the last person I want
>to butt heads with, but I will not lie or change the facts of any event to
>suit personal agendas.
>Clearly his dive operation needs to be updated as well as some of his
>clientele.
>
>There are 2 kinds of Captains, those that have already had an accident and
>those that are about to. I have done everything possible to keep the trips
>I'm on safe, but that does not ensure it will not happen. Must I endure the
>same crap on these list if it happens to me and nothing I did was
>wrong..........is that what you plan for me.
>
>The CG does not know jack shit about diving....... they know about boat
>handling ect.......they rule over us Captains, cut and dry.
>
>
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