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I can only explain the true facts of experience and from the CG, leaving divers in the water is a standard FL thing on drift dives is it not.... At 09:06 PM 7/14/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote: >Yeah, right - leave divers in the water? Your pal on the Seeker is a moron. >As usual, you guys and the Seeker are good at explaining clusterfucks >because you have so much experience with them. This guy has the worst track >record in the game and it is not by chance. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*] >Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 4:42 PM >To: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com >Subject: Re: FW: Survey of NE DiveBoats re: GUE acceptance. > > >Would it be really worth my time to explain the proper medovac procedure >from a vessel by the CG. I have seen and been involved in several, also I >have had some training from the CG on the procedure because of being a >Tugboat Capt as they offer a one day safety seminar here for Tug Captains >and mates. This is something not offered to the dive boat operators here, >which I believe should be or is this just another way of slandering the >"Seeker" by insinuating they did something wrong doing the >medovac...........I'm not interested in debating their dive gear, diving >technique, past record, DIR war ect...... just what I'm learned from >experience and suggested by the CG. > > > > > > > At 11:25 PM 7/12/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: mwithers [mailto:mwithers@hi*.co*] > >Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 4:10 PM > >To: 'Alton J. Hall, Jr.'; 'Paul Braunbehrens' > >Cc: 'MHK'; 'Udo Rotmistrenko'; 'Quest List'; 'Jarrod Jablonski' > >Subject: RE: Survey of NE DiveBoats re: GUE acceptance. > > > > > >Speaking of the Seeker - they lost another diver on Sunday, and left at > >least 2 in the water while they went to meet the chopper in seas "snottier > >than expected." Go figure. Details below. > >Martha > > > >*************************** > > > > > >From: jess Zellers [kaffphine@ho*.co*] > >Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:49 PM > >To: mwithers@hi*.co* > >Subject: Seeker- Sunday > > > >This report is more sober than our normal "muck" but well worth reading. > >It's a good reminder that you need to be prepared for anything... > > > > From Rick Huck > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >It's taken me awhile to collect my thoughts for this dive report. That's > >because it's not just a summary of a dive. Diving brings with it many > >challenges as we all know. Since I began diving I have faced many of >these. > >Now and then new ones present themselves. Sunday was that kind of day. > >Aboard the Seeker, I dove on the Algol, a Navy cargo ship 460' long sitting > >in 130' of water. One of the "Thursday Night Crazies", Terry Martzall, was > >one of the mates. Considering that I drove to Jersey by myself and didn't > >really know anyone, he was a welcome relief. He was also a great help in > >helping me plan my dive. A close friend of his, Brian, was on board and we > >struck up an immediate buddy-ship (no pun intended). We were going to go > >check out the lobsters not far from the wreck. The seas were a bit > >"snottier" than was expected. The Seeker was filled with a wide variety of > >divers in all shapes and sizes. Brian and I waited a bit to let some of > >these people get in ahead of us. We planned on meeting at the wheelhouse > >where we were tied in. Since a few divers got in between us upon entry, > >when I got down he was nowhere to be found. I had figured he was off to >the > >lobster condos. I found out later that he had some reg problems and never > >made it down. I decided to stay on the superstructure and check out photo > >ops, which were plentiful, for dive #2. Tons of fish and other marine life > >were all over this huge artificial reef. I was in and out of the wreck as >I > >headed toward the bow. I couldn't wait to take pictures. Soon it was time > >for my ascent. There was a bit of a current going up the anchor line so I > >was glad that I had my Jon line. I passed Terry on the way up as he had >set > >the hook and then did one long dive. > > > >I was about 15' above him when another diver came down the line with a >slate > >reading "Have to medovac diver will return to get you". Little did I know > >of the drama that had unfolded on the surface as I enjoyed the 25' vis and > >50 degree temperatures below. Then the anchor line became limp. I still > >had 5 minutes to go. The dark shape that was above me was no longer there. > >When I surfaced the Seeker was some 40 yards away from me heading in the > >opposite direction. I signaled "ok" as they disappeared into the waves. I > >looked around and I was in an open ocean hanging on the mooring ball all > >alone. I told myself to relax and just breathe, they will be back. Terry > >soon popped up from his stops and joined me. At least I had company. But > >my thoughts were of the divers onboard the boat. What had happened? As we > >clung together water and sky were the only things visible, a very >unsettling > >feeling. Then came the sound of a chopper off in the distance. We could > >hardly see it that far away. We waited and waited. The chopper passed > >overhead to check on us as it headed to the medical facilities. Again we > >signaled our "ok". He waved and continued on. We waited even longer. > >Then, finally, the Seeker came back into our sights. She never looked so > >good. Safely onboard we learned that a diver had had a heart attack >shortly > >after getting into the water. Capt. Dan Crowell and crew had administered > >CPR and he was stable with good color when airlifted off the boat. News > >came in later, sadly, that he didn't make it. My heart went out to his > >family and to his friends that were onboard. I couldn't imagine the >anguish > >of collecting his gear at the end of the trip. I realize that bad things > >can happen. As divers we must keep ourselves in good physical and mental > >condition especially for the stresses that our sport has upon us. Be > >prepared and dive safely. I was very glad when I arrived home to be back >in > >the arms of my wife. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Alton J. Hall, Jr. [mailto:ahall@da*.co*] > >Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:36 PM > >To: Paul Braunbehrens; techdiver@aquanaut.com > >Cc: MHK; Udo Rotmistrenko; Quest List; Jarrod Jablonski > >Subject: Re: Survey of NE DiveBoats re: GUE acceptance. > > > > > >You are absolutely correct. The only defense to slander such as that > >disseminated by the Seeker crowd is truth. In this case I know for a > >FACT that GUE though it's instructors is insured. I, personally hope > >that GUE decides to pursue the matter. In response to another query > >regarding how the Seeker stays out of trouble, it appears to me that > >they spend more time on the releases they have divers sign than on > >running a competent service. I only wish I could purchase some > >advertising on the vessel. "Could you die today...call 1-800-diver55". > > > >Alton > >http://www.divelawyer.com/ > > > > > >Paul Braunbehrens wrote: > > > > > MHK wrote: > > > ~ > > > > > >> > > >> Furthermore, the notion that GUE is lacking in insurance is a deceptive > > >> tactic used by the competitors to gain advantage. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you guys should take legal action. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm > > > pretty sure that's slander. In any case, even if you don't go through > > > with a legal action, by initiating contact through a lawyer and > > > threatening a lawsuit based on slander you'd probably shut them up > > > once and for all on this issue. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: quest-unsubscribe@gu*.co* > > > For additional commands, e-mail: quest-help@gu*.co* > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: quest-unsubscribe@gu*.co* > >For additional commands, e-mail: quest-help@gu*.co* > > > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > >"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the >water" >Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more > Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ >Email captjt@mi*.co* > > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. 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