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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: <LouisianaLegal@ao*.co*>, <PAlexakos@ao*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
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Subject: RE: GUE
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:21:45 -0400
Susan, I agree on the Seeker. What kind of moron who claims to be DIR would
be "caught dead" on that boat? On the other hand, people like me who have
the money to sue lying idiots don't mind doing it, and I if they think JJ
won't do it, they are wrong, like I did it when that idiot Mitch Skaggs
pulled bullshit on me ( and I won that one easily).

Forget lawyer, Susan, what kind of person thinks it is ok to tell lies about
people instead of the truth? Let me answer that for you: one who has no
truth to support his case, like Danny . This guy is wrong.

As for maiming and killing students on a regular basis, how many do you want
to hear about before you call it regular? How about there are more TDI
instructors who died from diving deep air than there are GUE instructors in
existence? How's that for a convincing case of how great a job they are
doing? How about double digit deaths on the Buddy Inspiration? How many
deaths before you call that a regular occurrence.

The good thing about Alton is he not only knows more than any of these
idiots every knew about diving, he has the balls to see what is right and
wrong, and the skill to take these idiots down, and has the track record to
prove it. Somebody needs to take the Seeker out of the game, and the guy who
does it will be doing diving a great service. The guy who takes out TDI
needs to be given sainthood.

-----Original Message-----
From: LouisianaLegal@ao*.co* [mailto:LouisianaLegal@ao*.co*]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:13 PM
To: PAlexakos@ao*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com; udo@hy*.or*;
quest@gu*.co*; JJ@gu*.co*; DEEPEXPL@ao*.co*; ahall@da*.co*
Subject: Re: GUE


P:

Why does GUE even care if Dan does or does not let GUE divers on his boat?
Actually, reading some of the accusations that have been thrown at the
Seeker, assuming one believes even 1% of them, GUE should say nothing in
public (thank you in private) and go on. I would imagine that all GUE
certified divers would stay far away as possible from the Seeker in light of
all the "libel and slander" that has been thrown against Dan. I don't know
Dan and  never dived the Seeker. But if what is written about the vessel is
even partially true then your employer should be grateful.

As any attorney will tell you Dan as captain of his boat can refuse service
to any one as long as he does not routinely discriminate against any of the
protected classes in the Bill of Rights. The "right" to tech dive on the
Seeker is not a constitutionally protected right no matter who trained you.

As for Alton filing a suit for "slander" against Dan, leaving aside the
question of what, if any, damages have occurred to GUE; if in fact Dan
incorrectly said GUE instructors had or have no insurance (which so far I've
only seen quotes from other people alleging Dan to have said this), I can
imagine that Dan's lawyers would counter file in response with their own
libel and slander actions.  The litigation could go on for years. Then the
only people who would be getting rich are the lawyers filing the lawsuits
unless GUE's lawyer works pro bono.

According, to an earlier post apparently Dan has an extensive release which
some feel is a "shield" to litigation. The release is a sign of competent
legal counsel in an age where anyone will sue for any perceived wrong.  I
always love it when lawyers bemoan other good lawyers' draftsmanship.

Whatever happened to personal responsibility in diving?

Susan
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