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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: <jimcurtis@di*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: GUE
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:12:40 -0400
As usual, the losers emerge with the same crap: "we would all be doing
things in a sensible manner if you would ask us nicely". First of all, you
moron, name one piece of "slander" that has been ever uttered by any of us
about anyone or anything, one piece of  criticism that is or was untrue, or
one problem we have with techdiving for which your solution makes more
sense than ours. Can not be done.

What you really mean to say is, "stop telling the truth about us and we
will stop lying about you". That  is a fact, and it is not going to change.
You have nothing but lies and bullshit, we have nothing but facts to back
us up.

As usual, again, you idiots always cry about our "methods" while doing what
you claim we are doing. Show me one lie, and I will kiss your ass. Show me
one thing said by any of us that matches up to Dumb Danny telling people
that GUE "has no insurance". You can not produce that.

The fact is, you drooling idiot, GUE was formed due to the disgust anyone
with a working brain has with what the alternatives were and are, and the
fact is that the fear and panic you idiots are showing in response to its
existence is a direct measure of its overwhelming success at providing an
alternative to the mindless stupidity that prevails elsewhere.

Another fact of life is that the presence of GUE and the constant example
set by the WKPP, along with my point blank methods of dealing with you
idiots, and the fact that nothing any of you has ever done , developed,
produced or proved can stand up to what the WKPP has done and continuos to
do which all have forced more positive changes in what the other agencies
do than any other force out there. You clowns can no longer hold hands and
fight reality. You are all losers, and the winners are the people out there
who really want to learn who no longer have to deal with any of you, and
who are finding more and more DIR divers and less and less of the worthless
crap taught by the rest of you..

You people bring nothing to the table, and you never will simply because
you are not in it for the same reasons, and you can not compete with anyone
who has a clue. You will continue to rely on business from the unknowing,
and those who are not supposed to be doing this in the first place.

And by the way, I have nothing to do with GUE, I run the WKPP, and the
reason you idiots are so constantly worried about me is that you can not
stop me from telling the truth, and anyone who finds out the truth finds
out that I am right. If I were not right, we would not be having this
conversation , you would not be so worried, and there would be no need for
GUE.

Keep fighting and losing - you guys are getting good at the latter, and
looking dumber every day. I am not the least bit concerned about who does
or does not pay any attention to us - only you guys are concerned about
that, and I will remind you and everyone else that DIR is for people who
want it, not necessarily people who need it. I do love your panic, however,
and will remind you that I have made a bigger impact on this sport than any
combination of any of you and you keep telling me I am not going about it
correctly. Too funny.

By the way, I don't know why you are complaining about Alton Hall - he is
on your side - the more you stay the same, the richer he gets. Again, too
funny.



-----Original Message-----
From: jimcurtis@di*.co*
[mailto:jimcurtis@di*.co*]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 10:52 AM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re:GUE


>To All Concerned,

Allow me to contextualize Mr. Crowell's comments of
7/9/2002.
 

.....On an average day, we ignore malicious attempts,
like Mr. Crowell's, to 
promote their nefarious agendas by deceiving the
public.   Exchanges of 
invective are such a colossal waste of time, and we
have none to spare 
at GUE.  However, following this last round of remarks,
we can no longer 
justify ignoring such transparent and dishonest
attempts to slander 
GUE.  Slander is legally actionable; the intentional
distortion of the 
truth designed to harm others is frowned upon by the
law.  If Mr. 
Crowell, or any other entity, has questions that need
to be answered, 
they should address these to the officers of the
organization, not tell 
stories to the public.  If they choose not to, and
persist in these 
slanderous public attacks, we will have no other
choice, however 
offensive we might find this, than to seek legal
recourse to either 
silence them or coerce them into representing things
how they are, not 
how they wished them to be.


Sincerely yours,


Dr. Panos D. Alexakos
Vice-President and Director of Quality Control
Global Underwater Explorers

GUE (www.gue.com) is a non-profit organization
committed to education, 
research, and exploration with thousands of dedicated
members worldwide.<
After the last several years of bashing every training
agency from PADI to the Mickey Mouse Club you guys are
hysterical.  First you get Mr. DIR and the rest of the
"Seven Dwarfs" to slander, insult, misrepresent
everyone not in "YOUR CLIC" and now when you start to
get some of your own medicine back, you whine.

Gee was it just a coincidence that the IANTD, TDI
bashing campaign began just prior to he launch of the
vaunted GUE agency?  You weren't trying to make them
look bad just to propagandize the morons on this list
into believing GUE was the best?

What's really funny is how you get a scumbag, ambulance
chasing lawyer to crawl out from under his rock and
threaten people every time you get some flack.

Your goal of making diving safer and more enjoyable is
laudible, but your methods are a disgrace.  You have
failed miserably get your message across and shot
yourself in the foot by turning so many people off.  As
GUE expands it will experience the same problems as the
other agencies with instructors taking short cuts to
make a buck.

I'm glad you have insurance, so when the inevitable
happens you'll have representation when 
"dive lawyer" calls. 

Jim
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