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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:17:17 -0500
From: "Alton J. Hall, Jr." <ahall@da*.co*>
To: Jim Curtis <jimcurtis@di*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: GUE

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Hi Jim:

I have no association with GUE but based on your "dive lawyer" reference 
must assume you are referring to me. I do have a lot of respect for what 
GUI does and stands for. I have successfully handled suits against 
IANTD, TDI, PADI, NAUI etc. I have never faced GUE and must assume that 
is because they don't maim or kill their students on a regular or even 
irregular basis. I don't chase ambulances as I can't run fast enough to 
catch them; I don't live under a rock but on a horse farm north of New 
Orleans and unless you can consider my reading of dribble such as you 
have posted here as "scum sucking" don't engage in such behavior. What I 
do is sue idiots who can't follow the most basic tenants of proper dive 
instruction. Occasionally I represent an injured diver. Usually I 
represent the family of a dead diver who wonder how their loved one 
could have been duped into diving deep on air, using patently dangerous 
rebreathers and other moronic gear configurations, choosing idiot 
instructors, diving from vessels staffed by individuals who are sitting 
for their GED for the 5th time, you get the idea. I also occasionally 
sue those who make false allegations. That said unless you can prove I 
live under a rock, chase ambulances, or suck scum I suggest you shut up. 
If you would like to discuss the matter in person my address is on my 
web site.

Alton J. Hall, Jr.

http://www.divelawyer.com/

Jim Curtis wrote:

>>To All Concerned,
>>
>
>Allow me to contextualize Mr. Crowell's comments of
>7/9/2002.
> 
>
>.....On an average day, we ignore malicious attempts,
>like Mr. Crowell's, to 
>promote their nefarious agendas by deceiving the
>public.   Exchanges of 
>invective are such a colossal waste of time, and we
>have none to spare 
>at GUE.  However, following this last round of remarks,
>we can no longer 
>justify ignoring such transparent and dishonest
>attempts to slander 
>GUE.  Slander is legally actionable; the intentional
>distortion of the 
>truth designed to harm others is frowned upon by the
>law.  If Mr. 
>Crowell, or any other entity, has questions that need
>to be answered, 
>they should address these to the officers of the
>organization, not tell 
>stories to the public.  If they choose not to, and
>persist in these 
>slanderous public attacks, we will have no other
>choice, however 
>offensive we might find this, than to seek legal
>recourse to either 
>silence them or coerce them into representing things
>how they are, not 
>how they wished them to be.
>
>
>Sincerely yours,
>
>
>Dr. Panos D. Alexakos
>Vice-President and Director of Quality Control
>Global Underwater Explorers
>
>GUE (www.gue.com) is a non-profit organization
>committed to education, 
>research, and exploration with thousands of dedicated
>members worldwide.<
>After the last several years of bashing every training
>agency from PADI to the Mickey Mouse Club you guys are
>hysterical.  First you get Mr. DIR and the rest of the
>"Seven Dwarfs" to slander, insult, misrepresent
>everyone not in "YOUR CLIC" and now when you start to
>get some of your own medicine back, you whine.
>
>Gee was it just a coincidence that the IANTD, TDI
>bashing campaign began just prior to he launch of the
>vaunted GUE agency?  You weren't trying to make them
>look bad just to propagandize the morons on this list
>into believing GUE was the best?
>
>What's really funny is how you get a scumbag, ambulance
>chasing lawyer to crawl out from under his rock and
>threaten people every time you get some flack.
>
>Your goal of making diving safer and more enjoyable is
>laudible, but your methods are a disgrace.  You have
>failed miserably get your message across and shot
>yourself in the foot by turning so many people off.  As
>GUE expands it will experience the same problems as the
>other agencies with instructors taking short cuts to
>make a buck.
>
>I'm glad you have insurance, so when the inevitable
>happens you'll have representation when 
>"dive lawyer" calls. 
>
>Jim
>--
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>


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Hi Jim:<br>
<br>
I have no association with GUE but based on your "dive lawyer" reference
must assume you are referring to me. I do have a lot of respect for what
GUI does and stands for. I have successfully handled suits against IANTD,
TDI, PADI, NAUI etc. I have never faced GUE and must assume that is because
they don't maim or kill their students on a regular or even irregular basis.
I don't chase ambulances as I can't run fast enough to catch them; I don't
live under a rock but on a horse farm north of New Orleans and unless you
can consider my reading of dribble such as you have posted here as "scum
sucking" don't engage in such behavior. What I do is sue idiots who can't
follow the most basic tenants of proper dive instruction. Occasionally I
represent an injured diver. Usually I represent the family of a dead diver
who wonder how their loved one could have been duped into diving deep on
air, using patently dangerous rebreathers and other moronic gear configurations,
choosing idiot instructors, diving from vessels staffed by individuals who
are sitting for their GED for the 5th time, you get the idea. I also
occasionally
sue those who make false allegations. That said unless you can prove I live
under a rock, chase ambulances, or suck scum I suggest you shut up. If you
would like to discuss the matter in person my address is on my web site.<br>
<br>
Alton J. Hall, Jr.<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.divelawyer.com/">http://www.divelawyer.com/</a><br>
<br>
Jim Curtis wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:20020712075147.29909.h007.c007.wm@ma*.di*.co*.cr*.ne*">
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    <pre wrap="">To All Concerned,<br></pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap=""><!----><br>Allow me to contextualize Mr. Crowell's
comments of<br>7/9/2002.<br> <br><br>.....On an average day, we
ignore malicious attempts,<br>like Mr. Crowell's, to <br>promote their
nefarious agendas by deceiving the<br>public.   Exchanges of
<br>invective are such a colossal waste of time, and we<br>have none to
spare <br>at GUE.  However, following this last round of remarks,<br>we
can no longer <br>justify ignoring such transparent and
dishonest<br>attempts to slander <br>GUE.  Slander is legally actionable;
the intentional<br>distortion of the <br>truth designed to harm others is
frowned upon by the<br>law.  If Mr. <br>Crowell, or any other entity, has
questions that need<br>to be answered, <br>they should address these to
the officers of the<br>organization, not tell <br>stories to the public. 
If they choose not to, and<br>persist in these <br>slanderous public
attacks, we will have no other<br>choice, however <br>offensive we might
find this, than
 to seek legal<br>recourse to either <br>silence them or coerce them into
representing things<br>how they are, not <br>how they wished them to
be.<br><br><br>Sincerely yours,<br><br><br>Dr. Panos D.
Alexakos<br>Vice-President and Director of Quality Control<br>Global
Underwater Explorers<br><br>GUE (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="http://www.gue.com">www.gue.com</a>) is a non-profit
organization<br>committed to education, <br>research, and exploration
with thousands of dedicated<br>members worldwide.<<br>After the last
several years of bashing every training<br>agency from PADI to the Mickey
Mouse Club you guys are<br>hysterical.  First you get Mr. DIR and the rest
of the<br>"Seven Dwarfs" to slander, insult, misrepresent<br>everyone not
in "YOUR CLIC" and now when you start to<br>get some of your own medicine
back, you whine.<br><br>Gee was it just a coincidence that the IANTD,
TDI<br>bashing campaign began just prior to he launch of the<br>vaunted
GUE agency?  
You weren't trying to make them<br>look bad just to propagandize the morons
on this list<br>into believing GUE was the best?<br><br>What's really
funny is how you get a scumbag, ambulance<br>chasing lawyer to crawl out
from under his rock and<br>threaten people every time you get some
flack.<br><br>Your goal of making diving safer and more enjoyable
is<br>laudible, but your methods are a disgrace.  You have<br>failed
miserably get your message across and shot<br>yourself in the foot by
turning so many people off.  As<br>GUE expands it will experience the same
problems as the<br>other agencies with instructors taking short cuts
to<br>make a buck.<br><br>I'm glad you have insurance, so when the
inevitable<br>happens you'll have representation when <br>"dive lawyer"
calls. <br><br>Jim<br>--<br>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing
list to `<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</a>'.<br>Send
subscribe/unsubscribe requests 
to `<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
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a>'.<br><br></pre>
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