No, we plan on using the entire stage, so you can figure out where to turn if turning is an issue. The 1/2+ thing is cave, and that depends on the flow anyway - less in a siphon, more in a spring. Stages are a major convenience and allow you to dive with a far greater reserve factor. The strokes never figured out how to rig or use them, so for them it is a big CF. For us, it feels normal. I can understand that - if bottles are not rigged just right, they are a nightmare, and almost nobody out there rigs them right. Obviously we do, otherwise we would not be able to get such massive distances in caves. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Schultz [mailto:se2schul@bl*.ma*.uw*.ca*] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:37 PM To: George Irvine Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: Pictures of Miss Lindsey trip to U-117, 6/22/02 Do you dive the stage to halves + 300 or thirds or something else? ss On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, George Irvine wrote: > > Christina, in one of your pictures of JT and the boys, you mention using a > stage bottle as a "new DIR/GUE practice for deep wreck diving". This is not > new. Our thinking in cave or deep wreck is to use stages and save the > backgas for issues, just as when we dive rebreathers, we have our doubles > with them as bailout and run the rebreather from a separate supply bottle. > > For boat diving offshore where multiple dives or days of diving are at hand, > clearly using stages is more logistically friendly as well. > > I have been diving my entire adult life and have seen my share of > situations, have pulled of open circuit cave dives that don't even seem > possible on the available gas, and I am not deluded enough to think I am > going to get out of a bad situation, or get my buddy out of a bad situation > in any type of dive , on a tiny supply of reserve gas either on open circuit > doubles or a rebreather with a tiny supply or tiny bailout bottle. > > We require this kind of planning in the WKPP, and GUE teaches it as well. JT > Barker and his guys are also well aware of the realities of deep wreck, and > are setting a great example by doing things in a fashion that does not rely > on a rabbit's foot to bring them back. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christina Young [mailto:christi5@ix*.ne*.co*] > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:02 PM > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com; rebreather@nw*.co* > Subject: Pictures of Miss Lindsey trip to U-117, 6/22/02 > > > Hi Everyone, > I've posted pictures of the trip to the WWI German U-boat U-117 on the dive > boat Miss Lindsey, June 22, 2002, on my site: > > Page I: http://www.christinayoung.com/pages/diving/misslindsey/u117-02a.htm > Page II: http://www.christinayoung.com/pages/diving/misslindsey/u117-02b.htm > > Stay tuned for pictures of the June 23 Miss Lindsey trip to the German > battleship Ostfriesland! > > Enjoy, > Christina > > ---------------------------------------------- > Christina M. Young > mailto:christina@ch*.co* > http://www.christinayoung.com > > "She who hesitates is lost..." > ---------------------------------------------- > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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