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From: "trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Pictures of Miss Lindsey trip to U-117, 6/22/02
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:25:24 -0400

Christina, you really are too much - you can't get anything straight when
it comes to us. Where do you think Georgitsis gets his direction from?
Where do you think practices of the WKPP come from that started prior to
Georgitsis even doing his first dive , or JT, or any of you? You really
have to be kidding here.

John Comley is one of the biggest strokes I have ever met. His practice was
to dive air in his backtanks and use a stage of trimix, and only  you would
confuse that with anything I do or recommend.  This is typical of how
little you understand about what we do.

The fact is that DIR did not come from JT or Georgitsis or GUE or anyone
else out there - it came from the WKPP. GUE also came from the WKPP and GUE
teaches DIR and everything else learned in the WKPP, as I already pointed
out. The guy who runs GUE is my dive partner for the last 11 years and
close friend. Many of his instructors are WKPP divers.

JT and his boys took a class from Andrew Georgitsis. I went up there and
did a DIR seminar for those guys as well  prior to Andrew doing a full
blown in-water session. I talk to these people, and anyone else who has a
genuine interest in learning, privately on a regular basis. At least they
can put aside the hubris , the false ego and the bravado long enough to
learn. You  can not, and  having seen your act first hand I can confirm
that to be a fact.

Stick to pictures and descriptions of shipwrecks, and leave the diving
discussions to people who have a an ability to constructively  make a
difference - you do not, and the Star Wars Bar Scenes that you display on
your web site make that very clear.


-----Original Message-----
From: Christina Young [mailto:christi5@ix*.ne*.co*]
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 7:16 AM
To: George Irvine; techdiver@aquanaut.com; rebreather@nw*.co*
Subject: RE: Pictures of Miss Lindsey trip to U-117, 6/22/02


Thanks for clearing that up George.  I was under the impression that it was
a new DIR practice from what JT said, and that they had gone back and forth
about developing this practice with Andrew Georgitsis.

I remember that John Comly also used this practice in the early 1990s to
dive such wrecks as the Norness.  Did you guys get it from him?

Christina

-----Original Message-----
From: George Irvine [mailto:george-irvine@em*.ne*]
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 6:12 AM
To: christi5@ix*.ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com;
rebreather@nw*.co*
Subject: RE: Pictures of Miss Lindsey trip to U-117, 6/22/02



Christina, in one of your pictures of JT and the boys, you mention using a
stage bottle as a "new DIR/GUE practice for deep wreck diving". This is not
new. Our thinking in cave or deep wreck is to use stages and save the
backgas for issues, just as when we dive rebreathers, we have our doubles
with them as bailout and run the rebreather from a separate supply bottle.

For boat diving offshore where multiple dives or days of diving are at hand,
clearly using stages is more logistically friendly as well.

I have been diving my entire adult life and have seen my share of
situations, have pulled of open circuit cave dives that don't even seem
possible on the available gas, and I am not deluded enough to think I am
going to get out of a bad situation, or get my buddy out of a bad situation
in any type of dive , on a tiny supply of reserve gas either on open circuit
doubles or a rebreather with a tiny supply or tiny bailout bottle.

We require this kind of planning in the WKPP, and GUE teaches it as well. JT
Barker and his guys are also well aware of the realities of deep wreck, and
are setting a great example by doing things in a fashion that does not rely
on a rabbit's foot to bring them back.


-----Original Message-----
From: Christina Young [mailto:christi5@ix*.ne*.co*]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:02 PM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com; rebreather@nw*.co*
Subject: Pictures of Miss Lindsey trip to U-117, 6/22/02


Hi Everyone,
I've posted pictures of the trip to the WWI German U-boat U-117 on the dive
boat Miss Lindsey, June 22, 2002, on my site:

Page I: http://www.christinayoung.com/pages/diving/misslindsey/u117-02a.htm
Page II: http://www.christinayoung.com/pages/diving/misslindsey/u117-02b.htm

Stay tuned for pictures of the June 23 Miss Lindsey trip to the German
battleship Ostfriesland!

Enjoy,
Christina

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Christina M. Young
mailto:christina@ch*.co*
http://www.christinayoung.com

"She who hesitates is lost..."
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