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--part1_9f.2886ed60.2a388c4d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Karla, > > I look at it ONLY from a practical viewpoint. People with limitations > that seek out extreme activities (as, in our case, diving) place a > liability on their companions which is far removed from the usual > "buddy" situation. Yes, but as a person with a physical disability, I know that if I had not tested that limitation, then I would have never have realized the joy of diving. Personally, I am happy to go as a buddy with a person with a disability, because I know the joy of diving, and what it has done for me. I realize, that my dive is suspect, as I am babysitting, but trust me when I say it is worth it. I Also do not believe that the person in question has any intentions of going Tech diving.....but then again, neither did I:) And, I consider myself light tech, as I will never go below the 160 range or so, again. I know my limitations, and that is where I am comfortable. The point is, diving has had numerous physical benefits. I have lost over 50lbs, 8 pant sizes, and 3 wet suit sizes. The last MRI I had, there were only 3 leasions. Before I started diving there were 7. Major difference. I feel better, I don't have flair-ups, and I eat better.(I spear fish) They place an extra onus of responsibility on their > > companions and, if these agree to these added responsibilities, well > and good. I suspect, however, that sometimes these people do not > realise the "degree of contract" (in these litigious times) that they > are entering into, quite possibly entirely innocently. Maybe not, but it is still their choice to enter in. And too, I feel that with some, there should be depth limits. One guy I know, with no legs, only dives in 15-20ft of water. > > Then there are some who do not realise that a stranger buddy may not > be all that they seem ... which is one reason why many, myself > included, will almost always limit themselves to diving with others > known to them. > > Frankly (this is a statement not really wise on this lis) I'd prefer > to dive "self sufficient" rather than with a stranger "buddy" (where > both are equal). I'm quite certain that there are many readers who > would agree with me. > If you have read any of my previous posts, you will know that I definitely prefer solo diving, so you don't have to justify that with me. But again, going with someone with a disability, and seeing the joy on their face. ... Picture this: You are in a wheelchair, paraylised from the waist down. You love the ocean. You have never known anything but two wheels, and have never had freedom to just run, jump or play. You decide to try to dive.....suddenly, you are no longer confined to the wheels of chair, but you have freedom. Something you have never known before. Were you to dive with someone like this, or spend a week in their shoes---or wheels, if you will, you would be more likely to understand. > If, however, I am prepared to dive with someone I don't know who > freely acknowledges that they are a novice, why that's a different > matter entirely and I'd dive just as I would with a person with > limitations, were that to happen. *MY* dive would be spent looking out > for that other diver, 100% of the time. Which is as it should be. Karla Clinch Training Supervisor Canine Counselors Ft. Lauderdale, FL 954-725-3532 --part1_9f.2886ed60.2a388c4d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Karla,<BR> <BR> I look at it ONLY from a practical viewpoint. People with limitations<BR> that seek out extreme activities (as, in our case, diving) place a<BR> liability on their companions which is far removed from the usual<BR> "buddy" situation. </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> Yes, but as a person with a physical disability, I know that if I had not tested that limitation, then I would have never have realized the joy of diving. Personally, I am happy to go as a buddy with a person with a disability, because I know the joy of diving, and what it has done for me. I realize, that my dive is suspect, as I am babysitting, but trust me when I say it is worth it. <BR> <BR> I Also do not believe that the person in question has any intentions of going Tech diving.....but then again, neither did I:) And, I consider myself light tech, as I will never go below the 160 range or so, again. I know my limitations, and that is where I am comfortable.<BR> <BR> The point is, diving has had numerous physical benefits. I have lost over 50lbs, 8 pant sizes, and 3 wet suit sizes. The last MRI I had, there were only 3 leasions. Before I started diving there were 7. Major difference. I feel better, I don't have flair-ups, and I eat better.(I spear fish)<BR> <BR> <BR> They place an extra onus of responsibility on their</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> companions and, if these agree to these added responsibilities, well<BR> and good. I suspect, however, that sometimes these people do not<BR> realise the "degree of contract" (in these litigious times) that they<BR> are entering into, quite possibly entirely innocently.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Maybe not, but it is still their choice to enter in. And too, I feel that with some, there should be depth limits. One guy I know, with no legs, only dives in 15-20ft of water.<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> Then there are some who do not realise that a stranger buddy may not<BR> be all that they seem ... which is one reason why many, myself<BR> included, will almost always limit themselves to diving with others<BR> known to them.<BR> <BR> Frankly (this is a statement not really wise on this lis) I'd prefer<BR> to dive "self sufficient" rather than with a stranger "buddy" (where<BR> both are equal). I'm quite certain that there are many readers who<BR> would agree with me.<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">If you have read any of my previous posts, you will know that I definitely prefer solo diving, so you don't have to justify that with me. <BR> <BR> But again, going with someone with a disability, and seeing the joy on their face. ...<BR> <BR> Picture this: You are in a wheelchair, paraylised from the waist down. You love the ocean. You have never known anything but two wheels, and have never had freedom to just run, jump or play. You decide to try to dive.....suddenly, you are no longer confined to the wheels of chair, but you have freedom. Something you have never known before.<BR> <BR> Were you to dive with someone like this, or spend a week in their shoes---or wheels, if you will, you would be more likely to understand.<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">If, however, I am prepared to dive with someone I don't know who<BR> freely acknowledges that they are a novice, why that's a different<BR> matter entirely and I'd dive just as I would with a person with<BR> limitations, were that to happen. *MY* dive would be spent looking out<BR> for that other diver, 100% of the time. Which is as it should be.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> <BR> Karla Clinch<BR> Training Supervisor<BR> Canine Counselors<BR> Ft. Lauderdale, FL<BR> 954-725-3532</FONT></HTML> --part1_9f.2886ed60.2a388c4d_boundary-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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