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From: "Chris Elmore" <elmorec@at*.ne*>
To: "aquanaut" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Shooting a lift bag
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:40:35 -0400
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Mike,
     About a year ago, when the good doc was in his pontificating mode =
instead of just trying to get reactions, I posted a message to the list =
offering to explain why MJB was an idiot for anyone who took him =
seriously. Results? Not one single comment. There are plenty of people =
on TD that are relatively clueless and some that just came over from =
rec.scuba that just don't know any better, but everyone seems to =
recognize MJB as the court jester. I don't monitor rec.scuba but I hear =
he's pretty much a buffoon there too.
C.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: MHK=20
  To: aquanaut=20
  Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:43 PM
  Subject: Shooting a lift bag


  Hey guys,

  I don't know if you guys caught this little gem that Dr. Quack posted =
to rec. scuba but I really thought a bunch of you would really get a =
kick out of this..  Here's a guy that get's on here and argues with =
everyone because of his superior knowledge, so I thought I'd share with =
you exactly how little this guy actually knows.

  It appears that he is in his TDI tech diving class, and posted this =
report about his class:

  From Dr. Black:

  Of all the useless skills taught in technical diver training,
  this has to rank as numero uno.  The idea of inflating a lift bag
  to perform drifting deco is, where I dive in the Great Lakes,
  useless.  Maybe you ocean divers are doing this lots, but it
  just doesn't happen around here, and if it ever did happen, the
  boat captain who would have to chase after you would be one
  unhappy skipper.  On the other hand, using a lift bag(s) to raise
  a heavy object is a skill that does get used, and has practical
  value.  But shooting a lift bag, as in technical diver training,
  is something you do once or twice as a student, then never again
  as a diver.  Cheers from Icediver (stepping down from the soapbox).

  Sorta makes you really wonder what they hell they teach at TDI, huh???

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>     =
About a year=20
ago, when the good doc was in his pontificating mode instead of just =
trying to=20
get reactions, I posted a message to the list offering to explain why =
MJB was an=20
idiot for anyone who took him seriously. Results? Not one single =
comment. There=20
are plenty of people on TD that are relatively clueless and some that =
just came=20
over from rec.scuba that just don't know any better, but everyone seems =
to=20
recognize MJB as the court jester. I don't monitor rec.scuba but I =
hear=20
he's pretty much a buffoon there too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>C.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dmhkane@pr*.ne* =
href=3D"mailto:mhkane@pr*.ne*">MHK</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">aquanaut</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 05,
2002 =
7:43=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Shooting a lift =
bag</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey guys,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't know if you guys caught this =
little gem=20
  that Dr. Quack posted to rec. scuba but I really thought a bunch of =
you would=20
  really get a kick out of this..  Here's a guy that get's on here =
and=20
  argues with everyone because of his superior knowledge, so I thought =
I'd share=20
  with you exactly how little this guy actually knows.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It appears that he is in his TDI tech =
diving=20
  class, and posted this report about his class:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From Dr. Black:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV>Of all the useless skills taught in technical diver =
training,<BR>this has=20
  to rank as numero uno.  The idea of inflating a lift bag<BR>to =
perform=20
  drifting deco is, where I dive in the Great Lakes,<BR>useless.  =
Maybe you=20
  ocean divers are doing this lots, but it<BR>just doesn't happen around =
here,=20
  and if it ever did happen, the<BR>boat captain who would have to chase =
after=20
  you would be one<BR>unhappy skipper.  On the other hand, using a =
lift=20
  bag(s) to raise<BR>a heavy object is a skill that does get used, and =
has=20
  practical<BR>value.  But shooting a lift bag, as in technical =
diver=20
  training,<BR>is something you do once or twice as a student, then =
never=20
  again<BR>as a diver.  Cheers from Icediver (stepping down from =
the=20
  soapbox).</DIV>
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorta makes you really wonder what =
they hell they=20
  teach at TDI, huh???</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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