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To: chris@de*.de*.co*.uk*
Subject: Re: O2 fills
From: Steve Millard <ec96@li*.ac*.uk*>
Cc: techdiver@opal.com
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 12:21:20 BST
Hi Chris,

	I was lurking on the techdiver listserver & picked up the thread on O2 
filling with air from an 'oily' compressor.  Several Liverpool University
divers 
are going on Kevin Gurr's nitrox course in a couple of weeks...so all may
become 
clear then, however in the meantime I have several questions you may be able to 
help with...


On Thu, 13 Apr 1995 10:15:23 GMT Chris Hellas wrote:



>           The problem is not just the speed of O2 decant. Agreed, with slow 
fill rates the adiabetic compression
> is low, but the potentia danger lies in using  std HP air compressor. Over a 
period of time contaminant build
>  up will start to become an issue in an O2 clean system. We always double 
filter. This is not so difficult in the
> field, since portable additinal filters are readily available to supplement 
the one fitted to any compressor
> you are using. As far as safety improvements for using dirty tanks and oily 
air - don't use either!.



	To get hold of high O2 % nitrox for deco may be difficult & expensive 
for us in Liverpool.  At present we can buy Nitrox_1 or Nitrox_2 if we trek 
1+1/2 hours up to Blackpool (who want us to leave our cylinders there & come 
back for them the next day !!) or we can go to Chester..3/4 hour away.  In 
either case they charge #7 /fill for 'standard' nitrox fills, ie Nitrox 1 or 2, 
but they want #10 or #12 for 'custom' high % nitrox fills.  Getting our deco 
bottles filled with high % O2 nitrox seems a high cost both in terms of time & 
money.	

	An alternative is to get in several O2 cylinders, an O2 analyser & some 
decanting hoses & mix our own nitrox.  I had assumed however that this route 
also involved the high cost purchase of an 'oil-free' compressor.  I have now 
recently become aware of the possibility of using our existing 'oily' 
Bauer compressor and adding an efficient oil removal filter to the end of the 
line.  Your posting reaffirms this possibility. Some questions we need to 
consider :

	What are the costs of the filter (purchase and running costs) ?  

	Are there any disadvantages ?  

	How do you know that the filter is working ?

	How many hours do you get out of one filter ? 

	How easy is it to refill the filter (cartridge or loose filter 
	material)  ? 

	Do you have the address of a supplier of such a filter in England ?

     Regards, Steve M.

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