The suit needs to have the proper garment under it and it needs to be filled
to comfort, not squeezing. That is pure idiocy. If you guys did anything
other than bounce dives, you might appreciate how the suit is supposed to be
worn, or learn the hard way what problems are produced by tight suits, as is
all kinds of skin damage and DCS. You never let the suit squeeze, and if it
were about to due to some failure, you go up. I have finished dives where I
lost my argon 13,000 feet into a cave and had 11 more hours in the water
with no problem what so ever. Figure it out - figure what happens as you go
up. There is no reason to do any of this.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Braunbehrens [mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:12 PM
To: scuba@md*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Cc: Capt JT
Subject: Re:Dir fundamentals - What's the point of this drill?


The reason Andrew does this drill, is that people around here
typically cheat and instead of having proper undergarments they have
a ton of gas in the suit.  The drills are usually done in 20 feet of
water, and the sqeeze isn't all that bad.  Andrew is trying to get
you used to divign the suit squeezed, and not like a big balloon.  I
agree that it's a bit extreme, but it also shows you how much excess
lead you are carrying.  I was wearing a 16# weight belt, now I'm
wearing none!


Ted Green wrote:
~
>From:          	Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
>Subject:       	Dir fundamentals instructor beats up student
>for DIW part 2
>
>>  BTW, I forgot to mention we were not allowed to hook up our DS
>>  inflators, the squeeze made reaching your valves much harder.
>
>Maybe I'm missing something here. The only time I have had the
>"shrink wrap effect" was on a descent when the dry suit inflator
>hose came off. No problem, reconnect drysuit inflator hose or
>inflate wing and return to surface. If you have a regulator or power
>inflator failure which prevents buoyancy control, ditch weight and
>return to the surface. "Shrink wrap effect" is a shallow water
>problem where the greatest volume change occurs, usually the first
>33'. If your not putting gas in your drysuit until you hit the bottom,
>you have a skill problem, or you don't understand how to operate a
>dry suit properly, or you just like the sensation of your testicles
>being squeezed. To me, valve shut down drills while shrink wrapped
>would be pointless.
>
>JT maybe you should take Andrew to one of the 40 degree quarries
>let him enter the water with his drysuit zipper open and let him
>demonstrate gas shut down drills, buoyancy skills, and deco stops
>with a flooded drysuit. Having to complete a dive with a flooded
>drysuit in cold water is probably a thousand times more likely than
>than his exercise.
>
>While I'm not a member of the Jim Cobb fan club, I tip my hat and
>congratulate him as being the only one willing to say, "this is
>bullshit!" and walk away.
>
>Ted
>
>Ted Green
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