Andrew was demonstrating that divers do not need a bunch of air in their dry suits. After we completely rid our dry suits of air and were squeezed he plainly said "you do not need much more air than this during your dive. You will add enough to fluff the undergarment to keep you warm." He was not suggesting that we dive like that. The point of not having any air in the dry suit on the first day of diving was to take out the dry suit variable so we could concentrate on other skills. Allyson -----Original Message----- From: Ted Green [mailto:scuba@md*.co*] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:37 AM To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Cc: Capt JT Subject: Dir fundamentals - What's the point of this drill? From: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> Subject: Dir fundamentals instructor beats up student for DIW part 2 > BTW, I forgot to mention we were not allowed to hook up our DS > inflators, the squeeze made reaching your valves much harder. Maybe I'm missing something here. The only time I have had the "shrink wrap effect" was on a descent when the dry suit inflator hose came off. No problem, reconnect drysuit inflator hose or inflate wing and return to surface. If you have a regulator or power inflator failure which prevents buoyancy control, ditch weight and return to the surface. "Shrink wrap effect" is a shallow water problem where the greatest volume change occurs, usually the first 33'. If your not putting gas in your drysuit until you hit the bottom, you have a skill problem, or you don't understand how to operate a dry suit properly, or you just like the sensation of your testicles being squeezed. To me, valve shut down drills while shrink wrapped would be pointless. JT maybe you should take Andrew to one of the 40 degree quarries let him enter the water with his drysuit zipper open and let him demonstrate gas shut down drills, buoyancy skills, and deco stops with a flooded drysuit. Having to complete a dive with a flooded drysuit in cold water is probably a thousand times more likely than than his exercise. While I'm not a member of the Jim Cobb fan club, I tip my hat and congratulate him as being the only one willing to say, "this is bullshit!" and walk away. Ted Ted Green ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dive Charter Boat: O.C. Diver Sunset Marina in Ocean City, Maryland http://www.ocdiver.com 410.742.1992 800.637.2102 Fax 410.749.9410 "Diving the Atlantic coast from Cape May NJ to Cape Charles VA." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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