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The real story here is not running a proper operation from a simple
seamanship point of view. This is not a diving issue, it is a dumb ass
issue. Most people who own or run boats don't have a clue, and that is why
we see what we see.
-----Original Message-----
From: Art.Paltz@R2*.CO* [mailto:Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:39 AM
To: Dogtrner1@ao*.co*; captnick@be*.ne*;
perdicea@no*.co*; MERC1328@ao*.co*;
demime-scuba-l@sc*.sq*.co*; FLTechDiver@mikey.net;
SCUBA-L@li*.br*.ed*; musmach@me*.ne*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: This is why I don't Do Anchor diving
This is just stupid! To me it�s more a reason not to drift dive.
Drifting in strong currents in 3 foot waves is not my idea of fun. Drift
deco alone? Just plain old dumb! He floated off in current and surfaced
hours later? What was he doing, drift deco or lost? If he was lost, why
not tie off and come up? Hell, nothing to tie off to, tie your goodie bag,
tools whatever to the end of the up line and drop it. Fill your bag with
sand, something to keep you semi rooted to the bottom. That boat shouldn�t
have even been there. No wonder it didn�t just drift off. Who was topside?
No cell phone? When on an unfamiliar site, run a line from where the anchor
is tied in so you can find your way back. In my opinion this is not a
lesson in why not to anchor to a site but more a lesson in stupidity!
Naturally different environments call for different diving. If the
currents were that strong then you have to drift but then you need to have
someone topside to follow you! Certainly in a boat that is reliable enough
to start and with a radio or cell phone. Why doesn�t own a cell phone?
Bunch of hicks? I know I�ve used my cell phone easily 7 miles out. This
just sounds like a bunch of morons not knowing what�s going on�..
Art.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dogtrner1@ao*.co* [mailto:Dogtrner1@ao*.co*]
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:01 PM
To: captnick@be*.ne*; perdicea@no*.co*; MERC1328@ao*.co*;
demime-scuba-l@sc*.sq*.co*; FLTechDiver@mikey.net;
SCUBA-L@li*.br*.ed*; musmach@me*.ne*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: This is why I don't Do Anchor diving
In a message dated 4/1/2002 9:32:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
TheReefManiac@ao*.co* writes:
Okeechobee diver found alive after 19 hours at sea
By Debbie Robinson staff writer
April 1, 2002
An Okeechobee diver was rescued unharmed Sunday morning offshore from
the
Sebastian Inlet after being in the water for 19 hours.
Carlos Duarte, 41, was pulled from the water by a recreational boater
who
spotted the man about 10:30 a.m. about 15 miles offshore, said Coast
Guard
Petty Officer Dana Morrison.
"Surprisingly, he was in pretty good shape," Morrison said. "He was
pretty
sunburned and tired."
Indian River County paramedics examined Duarte, but the diver refused
any
further medical treatment, Morrison said.
Duarte could not be reached for comment Sunday evening.
His saga started early Saturday afternoon when Duarte and two friends
steered their boat through the Fort Pierce Inlet into the Atlantic
Ocean
for an afternoon of lobster diving, Morrison said.
They headed north to the Vero Beach area, where they dropped anchor
about
3:30 p.m. about seven miles offshore from the area of South Beach
Park at
East Causeway Boulevard, said Indian River County Fire Lt. Kevin
Slade.
"There was an extremely strong current, and he drifted away from the
boat
underwater," he said.
When Duarte surfaced, he was several miles away from the boat and
unable to
swim back, Slade said.
His two friends, who were not identified, couldn't contact the Coast
Guard
because the boat was not equipped with radio communications or
flares,
Morrison said.
"They had no radio, no flares and the boat wouldn't start," he said.
At dawn, the two men were able to get the attention of a passing
boat, and
the people on board contacted the Coast Guard, Morrison said.
An air and ground search was launched and Duarte was located in the
water
about 10:30 a.m. by another boater who brought the diver to shore at
the
Sebastian Inlet, he said.
Duarte had been battling strong currents and 3-foot waves, Morrison
said.
Duarte stayed afloat by pumping air from his tank into his vest,
Morrison
said.
Two Indian River County Fire Department rescue divers earlier had
entered
the water in the area where Duarte was diving, and the department's
marine
cutter also participated in the search, Slade said.
Henry A. Stephens
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real story here is not running a proper operation from a simple =
seamanship=20
point of view. This is not a diving issue, it is a dumb ass issue. Most =
people=20
who own or run boats don't have a clue, and that is why we see what we=20
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*=20
[mailto:Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 02, 2002 =
8:39=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Dogtrner1@ao*.co*; captnick@be*.ne*;=20
perdicea@no*.co*; MERC1328@ao*.co*;=20
demime-scuba-l@sc*.sq*.co*; FLTechDiver@mikey.net;=20
SCUBA-L@li*.br*.ed*; musmach@me*.ne*;=20
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: This is why I don't Do
=
Anchor=20
diving<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle15><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2><SPAN=20
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12.0pt">This=20
is just stupid!<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>To me =
it’s more a=20
reason not to drift dive.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =20
</SPAN>Drifting in strong currents in 3 foot waves is not my idea of =
fun.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Drift deco alone?<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Just plain old dumb!<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He floated off in current =
and surfaced=20
hours later?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What was =
he doing,=20
drift deco or lost?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If =
he was=20
lost, why not tie off and come up?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>Hell, nothing to tie off to, tie your goodie bag, tools =
whatever to the=20
end of the up line and drop it.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>Fill your bag with sand, something to keep you semi rooted to =
the=20
bottom.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That boat =
shouldn’t have=20
even been there.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No =
wonder it=20
didn’t just drift off.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>Who was=20
topside?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No cell =
phone?<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When on an unfamiliar site, =
run a line=20
from where the anchor is tied in so you can find your way back.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In my opinion this is not a =
lesson in=20
why not to anchor to a site but more a lesson in=20
stupidity!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle15><FONT face=3DArial =
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color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">Naturally=20
different environments call for different diving.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If the currents were that =
strong then=20
you have to drift but then you need to have someone topside to follow=20
you!<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Certainly in a =
boat that is=20
reliable enough to start and with a radio or cell phone.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Why doesn’t own a cell =
phone?<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Bunch of hicks?<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I know I’ve used my =
cell phone easily=20
7 miles out.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This just =
sounds=20
like a bunch of morons not knowing what’s going=20
on…..<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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Dogtrner1@ao*.co* [mailto:Dogtrner1@ao*.co*]<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, April 01, 2002 =
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PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
captnick@be*.ne*; perdicea@no*.co*; MERC1328@ao*.co*; =
demime-scuba-l@sc*.sq*.co*; FLTechDiver@mikey.net;=20
SCUBA-L@li*.br*.ed*; musmach@me*.ne*;=20
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> This is why I don't Do =
Anchor=20
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message dated 4/1/2002 9:32:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, =
TheReefManiac@ao*.co*=20
writes: <BR><BR><BR style=3D"mso-special-character:
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found alive after 19 hours at sea <BR>By Debbie Robinson staff writer=20
<BR>April 1, 2002 <BR>An Okeechobee diver was rescued unharmed Sunday =
morning=20
offshore from <BR>the <BR>Sebastian Inlet after being in the water for =
19=20
hours. <BR>Carlos Duarte, 41, was pulled from the water by a =
recreational=20
boater <BR>who <BR>spotted the man about 10:30 a.m. about 15 miles =
offshore,=20
said Coast <BR>Guard <BR>Petty Officer Dana Morrison. =
<BR>"Surprisingly, he=20
was in pretty good shape," Morrison said. "He was <BR>pretty =
<BR>sunburned and=20
tired." <BR>Indian River County paramedics examined Duarte, but the =
diver=20
refused <BR>any <BR>further medical treatment, Morrison said. =
<BR>Duarte could=20
not be reached for comment Sunday evening. <BR>His saga started early =
Saturday=20
afternoon when Duarte and two friends <BR>steered their boat through =
the Fort=20
Pierce Inlet into the Atlantic <BR>Ocean <BR>for an afternoon of =
lobster=20
diving, Morrison said. <BR>They headed north to the Vero Beach area, =
where=20
they dropped anchor <BR>about <BR>3:30 p.m. about seven miles offshore =
from=20
the area of South Beach <BR>Park at <BR>East Causeway Boulevard, said =
Indian=20
River County Fire Lt. Kevin <BR>Slade. <BR>"There was an extremely =
strong=20
current, and he drifted away from the <BR>boat <BR>underwater," he =
said.=20
<BR>When Duarte surfaced, he was several miles away from the boat and=20
<BR>unable to <BR>swim back, Slade said. <BR>His two friends, who
were =
not=20
identified, couldn't contact the Coast <BR>Guard <BR>because the boat =
was not=20
equipped with radio communications or <BR>flares, <BR>Morrison said. =
<BR>"They=20
had no radio, no flares and the boat wouldn't start," he said. <BR>At =
dawn,=20
the two men were able to get the attention of a passing <BR>boat, and =
<BR>the=20
people on board contacted the Coast Guard, Morrison said. <BR>An air =
and=20
ground search was launched and Duarte was located in the <BR>water =
<BR>about=20
10:30 a.m. by another boater who brought the diver to shore at <BR>the =
<BR>Sebastian Inlet, he said. <BR>Duarte had been battling strong =
currents and=20
3-foot waves, Morrison <BR>said. <BR>Duarte stayed afloat by pumping =
air from=20
his tank into his vest, <BR>Morrison <BR>said. <BR>Two Indian River =
County=20
Fire Department rescue divers earlier had <BR>entered <BR>the water in =
the=20
area where Duarte was diving, and the department's <BR>marine =
<BR>cutter also=20
participated in the search, Slade said. <BR><BR><BR>Henry A.
Stephens =
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