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From: Dogtrner1@ao*.co*
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 17:37:56 EST
Subject: Re: Karla & Cave Diving
To: girvine@be*.ne*, elmorec@at*.ne*, techdiver@aquanaut.com

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In a message dated 3/31/2002 4:25:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
girvine@be*.ne* writes:


> Chris, you left out the dead giveaway of the stroke-trained diver, which is 
> an automatic contraindication for cave diving: the " I use a small tank and 
> am fine" attitude. 
>  
> We do not ALLOW less than 104's in the WKPP. We do not allow anyone stupid 
> enough to not understand why buddies all dive equivalent tanks.
>  
> The stupidity taught in diving is criminal, and this is a perfect example 
> of why the agencies other than GUE are so inadequate in every respect.
>  
> 

George,

Are you speaking double 104's or singles?

Now keep in mind, when I talk use my 120, I am in open water, with one to two 
stages with me.  And I don't dive over 170 and no longer than 20 minutes.

I still hit surface with over 2000lbs in my 120 after the dive, and about 
1200 in my pony(deco).  Is that ok, or should I only dive that depth on 
doubles? 

Also note;  I don't spend all my time at 170---However, I generally plan my 
dive for that depth, but I may never get past 160 or 150- on adive.

For instance:  I dove the Miller the other day.  Planned the dive at 170.  
Never went past 150.

Ok, back to cave diving.  I have what may seemingly be a really stupid 
question, but here goes:

when you say that you are diving in cave say 900 ft.  Are you speaking 
horizontally or vertically or both?

Ok, I acknowledge it's a dumb question, but I thought I would ask 
anyway....Grin.
Plus I figure I will question you all to death before I even think about 
this.  And I still like the idea of Caving dry first.  Thanks Chris.  I had 
not thought of that


And guys, just for the record, I believe in Tri-Mix not deep air diving, as I 
have stated before.  Higher the helium content the better.

Later,
Karla

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"><FONT 
SIZE=2>In a message dated 3/31/2002 4:25:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
girvine@be*.ne* writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Chris, you left out the
dead giveaway of the stroke-trained diver, which is an automatic
contraindication for cave diving: the " I use a small tank and am fine"
attitude. 
<BR> 
<BR>We do not ALLOW less than 104's in the WKPP. We do not allow anyone
stupid enough to not understand why buddies all dive equivalent tanks.
<BR> 
<BR>The stupidity taught in diving is criminal, and this is a perfect
example of why the agencies other than GUE are so inadequate in every respect.
<BR> 
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>George,
<BR>
<BR>Are you speaking double 104's or singles?
<BR>
<BR>Now keep in mind, when I talk use my 120, I am in open water, with one
to two stages with me.  And I don't dive over 170 and no longer than 20
minutes.
<BR>
<BR>I still hit surface with over 2000lbs in my 120 after the dive, and
about 1200 in my pony(deco).  Is that ok, or should I only dive that depth
on doubles? 
<BR>
<BR>Also note;  I don't spend all my time at 170---However, I generally
plan my dive for that depth, but I may never get past 160 or 150- on adive.
<BR>
<BR>For instance:  I dove the Miller the other day.  Planned the
dive at 170.  Never went past 150.
<BR>
<BR>Ok, back to cave diving.  I have what may seemingly be a really
stupid question, but here goes:
<BR>
<BR>when you say that you are diving in cave say 900 ft.  Are you
speaking horizontally or vertically or both?
<BR>
<BR>Ok, I acknowledge it's a dumb question, but I thought I would ask
anyway....Grin.
<BR>Plus I figure I will question you all to death before I even think about
this.  And I still like the idea of Caving dry first.  Thanks Chris.
 I had not thought of that
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>And guys, just for the record, I believe in Tri-Mix not deep air diving,
as I have stated before.  Higher the helium content the better.
<BR>
<BR>Later,
<BR>Karla</FONT></HTML>

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