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From: "Chris Elmore" <elmorec@at*.ne*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Karla & Cave Diving
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:45:02 -0500
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Dogtrner1@ao*.co*=20
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com=20
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: Cave Diving


> First off, Thanks to every one for the great private responses.=20
>=20
> Let me clarify some things.=20
>=20
> 1)  I am claustrophobic to a degree, but can 90% of the time over come =
it.=20

Then, frankly, you are not a candidate for cave diving. Period. There =
are times that you can't control environment and things get interesting. =
Panic, or even a high degree of uneasiness, will only make things worse. =
You've got to *like* being in caves- not just handle it.

>  It usually only occurs at the beginning of something, and if I =
overcome it, I am done with it in that environment for the rest of > the =
time in that environment for that day.  For instance:  When I have an =
MRI done, I am fine, if I can get past the initial time > frame.  =
However, I will have that problem the next time I go as well.=20

Who wants to dive with someone that needs a hand held to get into the =
cave? Seriously, try dry caving first and get a feel and appreciation =
for caves. If you reach a point where there is no hint of claustrophobia =
(be honest here) and you actually start looking for passages to crawl =
into, then take the Cave 1 course.


> 4) If I do this, I want some good advice on who to go to, ect....=20

That's "etc." :-)

> 5) Also:  Are doubles a requirement?  I tend to use my 120, which does =
well for me, and 99.99% of all dives.

Karla, I have over 4000 hours as Pilot in Command and if 99.99% was an =
acceptable risk then I would be due to bend an airplane any day now. =
This is not a video game- we have to win every time. That is the =
attitude that DIR takes so much flack for. Sure you can cut a few =
corners, make a compromise here or there and you'll get away with it =
most of the time. However, getting away with something does not make it =
safe. With just a little effort you can execute a dive without =
compromises and increase the safety margin by an order of magnitude or =
more. It's not really anything special, just eliminating the =
compromises- it's called "Doing It Right".
C.

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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 29, 2002
7:28 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Cave
Diving</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>> First off,
Thanks =
to every one=20
for the great private responses. <BR>> <BR>> Let me clarify some =
things.=20
<BR>> <BR>> 1)  I am claustrophobic to a degree, but can 90% =
of the=20
time over come it. </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Then, frankly, you are not a candidate =
for cave=20
diving. Period. There are times that you can't control environment and =
things=20
get interesting. Panic, or even a high degree of uneasiness, will only =
make=20
things worse. You've got to *like* being in caves- not just handle=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>>  It =
usually only=20
occurs at the beginning of something, and if I overcome it, I am done =
with it in=20
that environment for the rest of > the time in that environment for =
that day.=20
 For instance:  When I have an MRI done, I am fine, if I can =
get past=20
the initial time > frame.  However, I will have that problem the =
next=20
time I go as well. </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>Who wants to dive
with =
someone that=20
needs a hand held to get into the cave? Seriously, try dry caving first =
and get=20
a feel and appreciation for caves. If you reach a point where there is =
no hint=20
of claustrophobia (be honest here) and you actually start looking for =
passages=20
to crawl into, then take the Cave 1 course.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>> 4) If I do this, I want some good advice on who to
go =
to,=20
ect.... </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>That's "etc." :-)<BR><BR>> 5) Also:  Are doubles a =
requirement?=20
 I tend to use my 120, which does well for me, and 99.99% of all=20
dives.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Karla, I have over 4000 hours as Pilot in Command and if 99.99% was =
an=20
acceptable risk then I would be due to bend an airplane any day now. =
This is not=20
a video game- we have to win every time. That is the attitude that =
DIR=20
takes so much flack for. Sure you can cut a few corners, make a =
compromise here=20
or there and you'll get away with it most of the time. However, getting =
away=20
with something does not make it safe. With just a little effort you can =
execute=20
a dive without compromises and increase the safety margin by an order of =

magnitude or more. It's not really anything special, just eliminating =
the=20
compromises- it's called "Doing It Right".</DIV>
<DIV>C.</DIV>
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