George, Thanks -- and muchas again for the WKPP extreme profiles which finalized the overall RGBM ansatz. Nobody does the kind of diving you, JJ, and the whole of WKPP do -- not even spec ops. You guys should get the Nobel Prize For Diving -- Stockholm needs to docket such. And no diving model can ever be complete without proper cognizance and reproducibility of the WKPP. In one fell swoop, you guys have virtually dismantled all the bullshit icons of diving. Sure, theories have done same, but the proof rests in the water. Many regard your "field tests" (what an understatement) as the ultimate -- Doppler, imaging, and related medical tests need correlate (try to) your extreme envelope activities with reality. And "what works works" as Bill remarks. Bueno. Bruce >Very similar, and we have already been over the why the slight differences. >The thing is that Bruce's will work perfectly. My logic merely holds true >for all dives, and is my insurance for a good result, although I would not >be the least bit afraid of doing Bruce's schedule, and have , and know they >work. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bruce R. Wienke [mailto:brw@la*.go*] >Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:37 PM >To: deco@de*.or*; techdiver@aquanaut.com >Subject: FYI: RGBM WKPP/Irvine Test Deco Profile Comparison > > >>Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:18:40 -0700 >>To: "Chris Elmore" <elmorec@at*.ne*> >>From: "Bruce R. Wienke" <brw@la*.go*> >>Subject: Final RGBM WKPP test deco profile >>Cc: brwswe@ao*.co* >>Bcc: >>X-Attachments: >> >> >> >> >> Chris, >> >> Check this one out -- aggressive RGBM. You got this >> on AOL too -- filters will not admit your email there. > George's profile is appended too. > > Nice match -- that 270 - 100 fsw deco range is wild. > >> BW >> >> >> --Dive Sequence Number-- 1 >> >> --Scaling/Control Flags-- >> >> print flag = 0 repet flag = 0 >> dive number = 1 altitude = 0.0 ft >> rfac = 1.94 pfac = 1.00 bfac = 1.05 >> unsat = 1 >> surface consumption rate = 0.75 cubic ft/min >> >> >> --RGBM/Mixed Gas Parameters-- >> >> nitrogen tissues = 5.0 10.0 20.0 40.0 80.0 120.0 >> 160.0 240.0 320.0 400.0 480.0 min >> helium tissues = 1.7 3.3 6.7 13.3 26.7 40.0 >> 53.3 80.0 106.7 133.3 160.0 min >> >> >> --Dive Profile-- >> >> time since last dive = 24000. min >> time of last dive = 0.0 min >> surface breathed nitrogen = 0.79 helium = 0.00 down switches = 2 >> >> switch 1 depth = 0.0 fsw helium = 0.00 nitrogen = 0.79 >> speed = 42.8 fsw/min way time = 0.0 min >> switch 2 depth = 300.0 fsw helium = 0.70 nitrogen = 0.18 >> speed = 42.8 fsw/min way time = 30.0 min >> >> trimix = 0.70 helium 0.18 nitrogen up switches = 3 >> >> switch 3 depth = 120.0 fsw helium = 0.00 nitrogen = 0.65 >> speed = -25.0 fsw/min way time = 0.0 min >> switch 4 depth = 70.0 fsw helium = 0.00 nitrogen = 0.50 >> speed = -25.0 fsw/min way time = 0.0 min >> switch 5 depth = 20.0 fsw helium = 0.00 nitrogen = 0.00 >> speed = -25.0 fsw/min way time = 34.0 min >> >> >> --EOS-- > > rex = 8.192 microns d/rfacs = 1.087 1.000 >> T = 80 F aa = **** bb= **** cc = **** dd = **** >> tau = **** Hugoniot = 6 transfer coeff = **** >> >> --Decompression Schedule-- >> >> >> bottom depth = 300.0 fsw ppO2 = 1.2 atm OTU/CNS = 40.2 min/0.15 % >> bottom time = 37.0 min >> >> depth wait tissue tension pss ppO2 OTU CNS >>gas >> (fsw) (min) (min) (fsw) (fsw) (atm) (min) (%) >>(ft^3) >> >> 300.0 - 30.0 - 1.2 - 40.2 - 0.15 - >>256. >> 280.0 - 0.0 - 0.5 - 270.4 - 22.5 - 1.1 - 0.0 - 0.00 - >>-2. >> 270.0 - 1.0 - 2.3 - 254.3 - 26.6 - 1.1 - 1.2 - 0.00 - >>5. >> 260.0 - 0.0 - 2.3 - 256.4 - 26.6 - 1.1 - 0.0 - 0.00 - >>-2. >> 250.0 - 1.0 - 4.7 - 249.0 - 28.8 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 0.00 - >>5. >> 240.0 - 0.0 - 2.3 - 252.8 - 26.6 - 1.0 - 0.0 - 0.00 - >>-1. >> 230.0 - 1.0 - 4.7 - 238.9 - 28.8 - 1.0 - 0.9 - 0.00 - >>5. >> 220.0 - 1.0 - 4.7 - 226.8 - 28.8 - 0.9 - 0.9 - 0.00 - >>4. >> 210.0 - 1.0 - 9.4 - 220.9 - 30.1 - 0.9 - 0.8 - 0.00 - >>4. >> 200.0 - 1.0 - 9.4 - 214.1 - 30.1 - 0.8 - 0.7 - 0.00 - >>4. >> 190.0 - 1.0 - 9.4 - 207.2 - 30.1 - 0.8 - 0.7 - 0.00 - >>4. >> 180.0 - 2.0 - 9.4 - 192.6 - 30.1 - 0.8 - 1.2 - 0.00 - >>9. >> 170.0 - 1.0 - 9.4 - 186.5 - 30.1 - 0.7 - 0.5 - 0.00 - >>4. >> 160.0 - 1.0 - 9.4 - 180.0 - 30.1 - 0.7 - 0.5 - 0.00 - >>3. >> 150.0 - 3.0 - 18.8 - 167.9 - 31.5 - 0.7 - 1.2 - 0.00 - >>12. >> 140.0 - 2.0 - 18.8 - 160.6 - 31.5 - 0.6 - 0.7 - 0.00 - >>7. >> 130.0 - 3.0 - 18.8 - 149.5 - 31.5 - 0.6 - 0.7 - 0.00 - >>13. >> 120.0 - 1.0 - 18.8 - 137.4 - 31.5 - 1.6 - 2.0 - 0.02 - >>5. >> 110.0 - 1.0 - 18.8 - 129.9 - 31.5 - 1.5 - 1.8 - 0.01 - >>5. >> 100.0 - 3.0 - 37.6 - 120.8 - 32.5 - 1.4 - 4.9 - 0.03 - >>10. >> 90.0 - 4.0 - 37.6 - 110.4 - 32.5 - 1.3 - 5.9 - 0.03 - >>12. >> 80.0 - 4.0 - 37.6 - 100.9 - 32.5 - 1.2 - 5.3 - 0.02 - >>11. >> 70.0 - 4.0 - 37.6 - 91.8 - 32.5 - 1.6 - 7.5 - 0.05 - >>10. >> 60.0 - 6.0 - 56.4 - 81.8 - 32.9 - 1.4 - 9.9 - 0.05 - >>13. >> 50.0 - 8.0 - 56.4 - 72.1 - 32.9 - 1.3 - 11.3 - 0.05 - >>16. >> 40.0 - 9.0 - 56.4 - 62.6 - 32.9 - 1.1 - 10.6 - 0.03 - >>16. >> 30.0 - 14.0 - 75.2 - 53.0 - 33.0 - 1.0 - 12.9 - 0.04 - >>21. >> 20.0 - 34.0 - 112.7 - 35.3 - 33.2 - 1.6 - 65.7 - 0.52 - >>41. >> 10.0 - 6.0 - 112.7 - 32.9 - 33.2 - 1.3 - 8.9 - 0.04 - >>6. >> >> 159.0 197.8 1.08 >>496. >> >> >> >> deco plus surfacing time = 122.0 min >> cum CNS% = 1.08 cum OTU = 197.8 min >> cum gas consumption = 496. cubic ft >> >> dive time = 159.0 min >> >> >> >> total dives processed = 1 >> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Bruce R. Wienke" <brw@la*.go*> >>>>To: "Chris Elmore" <elmorec@at*.ne*> >>>>Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 3:11 PM >>>>Subject: Re: Test deco profiles >>>> >>>> >>>>> Chris, >>>>> >>>>> Send me George's (your) test profile -- you ahve a very >conservative >>>>> RGBM calc. Are you interested in a more "ambitious" one? >>>>> >>>>> BW >>>> >>>>Bruce, >>>> G's profile is below. Yes, I'm looking for something on the cusp of what >is >>>>theoretically possible- not something that I would actually want to try. >>>>That's why I have the decopalnner in as the touchstone for comparison. >>>>Thanks, >>>>C. >>>> >>>>**************** >>>>Get to the bottom in 7 minutes, leave 30 minutes later. >>>> >>>>300 30 12/70 >>>> >>>>300-240 3 minutes >>>> >>>>240-190 5 minutes >>>> >>>>180-130 7 minutes >>>> >>>>120 switch to 35% >>>>120 5 minutes >>>>110 4 >>>>100 4 >>>> 90 3 >>>> 80 2 >>>> >>>>70 switch to 50% >>>>70 5 >>>>60 5 >>>>50 5 >>>>40 8 >>>>30 12 >>>> >>>>20 switch to 100% >>>>20 34 >>>>20-0 10 >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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