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>From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*> >Reply-To: <trey@ne*.co*> >To: "Simon Naunton" <snaunton@ho*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >Subject: RE: detecting bends >Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:36:47 -0500 <snip rant /> >Bubbles in the venous side do not mean you are bent. Get that part , you >moron. Maybe you can tell us all about your vast knowledge and experience >on >the subject? I seriously doubt it. I only have a limited knowledge on this topic, but even so fail to see where bubbles on the venous side come into it? The article explicitly states that the bubbles where in the tear film of the eye. > >You , being a typically ignorant and a complete ass at the same time. You >totally missed what I was talking about here. The guys in this study went >to >the trouble of looking into the back of the eye to see bubbles. You can see >all the capillaries in the eye quite easily. However, being more concerned >with bullshit than with anything really informative, they overlooked the >chance to do this in a chamber on air and see the action of red cell >rigidity, which is responsible for more injuries that are misconstrued as >simple DCS. So, your point is that Dr Bennett's conclusion is wrong because he did not conduct the study you think he should have conducted? <snip rant once more /> > >-----Original Message----- >From: Simon Naunton [mailto:snaunton@ho*.co*] >Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 5:46 PM >To: techdiver@aquanaut.com >Subject: RE: detecting bends > > > >"...they are still more worried about the symptoms than the problems..." > >Seeing as this is a "...simple method of identifying decompression >illness..." then looking for symptoms is what one would expect. > >"On another note, venous bubbles do not mean you are bent >by any means, so this is bullshit, but then consider the source" > ><sarcasm> >Techdiver and the WKPP are obviously better places to find out about >decompression illness than doctors who specialise in hyperbaric medicine. ></sarcasm> > > >From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*> > >Reply-To: <trey@ne*.co*> > >To: "Steve Schultz" <se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*>, > ><techdiver@aquanaut.com> > >Subject: RE: detecting bends > >Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 06:57:59 -0500 > > > > > >This is also a good spot for seeing the action of red blood cells on > >nitrogen, but as you see, they are still more worried about the symptoms > >than the problems. On another note, venous bubbles do not mean you are >bent > >by any means, so this is bullshit, but then consider the source. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Steve Schultz [mailto:se2schul@st*.ma*.uw*.ca*] > >Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 2:28 PM > >To: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >Subject: detecting bends > > > > > >I took this from the french tech list. Anyone have more info? > > > >ss > > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 19:11:36 +0000 > >From: Dr Jerome Meynie <jertek@ho*.co*> > >Reply-To: aqua-tek@aq*.co* > >To: aqua-tek@aq*.co* > >Subject: Accidents de decompression et Larmes > > > >Contrairement a ce que le titre pourrait laissi sous entendre, c'est une > >bonne nouvelle d'outre manche que je vous transmet et bien moins cher >qu'un > >test doppler: > > > > > >UPDATED : 8 March 2002 > > > > NEW TEST FOR DECOMPRESSION ILLNESS > > Doctors at the University of New South Wales > > Department of Diving and Hyperbaric Medicine claim to > > have discovered a simple method of identifying > > decompression illness. > > Research carried out on scuba divers revealed that > > after every dive between one and three bubbles are > > visible in the fluid that lubricates the eyeball. These > >are visible in the tear film in the lower eyelid. In case of > > divers with decompression illness, between 20 and 30 > > bubbles can be observed. > > "We hope that a remote doctor, suspicious that a > > patient may have the bends, will be able to do a > >simple,inexpensive examination of the patient's tear film. > > Based on the number of air bubbles, they will then be > > able to make a decision on whether the patient needs to > > be flown out for further treatment," said Dr Bennett, the > >report's author. > >Monday 4 March, 2002 > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > >http://www.hotmail.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Liste de discussion Aqua-Tek > >Liste hibergie et administrie gratuitement par Aquanaute.com > >Prisentation de la liste, Abonnement / Disabonnement : > >http://www.aquanaute.com/mailman/listinfo/aqua-tek > >Archives de la liste : > >http://www.aquanaute.com/listes/aquatek/ > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > >Simon Naunton >snaunton@ho*.co* > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > Simon Naunton snaunton@ho*.co* _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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