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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: "pina" <pina3@be*.ne*>,
     "Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com"
Subject: RE: Simple DIR placement questions
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 06:53:26 -0500
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I don't have that kind of marker, I just use the liftbag, but the pocket is
definitely the correct place for one of those.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: pina [mailto:pina3@be*.ne*]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:46 PM
  To: trey@ne*.co*
  Subject: RE: Simple DIR placement questions


  I keep my small "safety sausage" in my left pocket clipped off (not sure
if he meant the real small one or not).
    -----Original Message-----
    From: George Irvine [mailto:girvine@be*.ne*]
    Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:29 PM
    To: Salty32321@ao*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
    Subject: RE: Simple DIR placement questions



    "safety sausages" , lift bag or whatever is being carried for marking
are kept between the backplate and body, with a bungee around to the front
d-ring for access, or just on the hip if there is not a bunch of other
stuff.

    flares, radios or anything else that can't get wet needs to be in a
canister - slide it on in front of the light if this is a needed issue. I
prefer just not to dive with assholes or off of boats run by assholes, but I
know you guys don't get that part yet.

    tools  should all be in one bag, it should be easy to handle, and it
should be carried as a stage if big with clips on both ends or on the side
if small enough. You just don't want it causing a CF if you have to respond
to a situation or in a bad current.. If you really wanted to be slick, you
could put the tools in the kind of container we use to collect water , which
can be opened underwater and is carried like a stage. When we have to carry
something a long way, we take it in a scooter body or a similar tube towed
behind or rigged as a stage. These are permeable at the ends so they don't
lock up, the buoyancy is added inside the open tubes

    Bottles are worn on the left side, but can be attached by the nose to
the hip ring instead of both clips being used between the chest and hip
ring. The smaller bottles do better on the hip, the larger ones do well if
they are high in helium content.

    I know that you did not expect good answers to these questions, as most
of you still think that being a complete walking clusterfuck in the water is
a sign of a "tech" diver, that there are some "regional" issues that require
you to be a stroke, or that we don't know what we are doing, despite
powerful evidence to the contrary, but if you had to do the serious shit
that I do, some of you might wake the fuck up. Jarrod and I carry more gear
than you can fathom, and we do things underwater with total slickness and
ease as demonstrated by our ability to video places 19000 feet from an
opening under 300 feet of water and have it be television quality complete
with sound and HID lighting.


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Salty32321@ao*.co* [mailto:Salty32321@ao*.co*]
      Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 9:34 PM
      To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
      Subject: Simple DIR placement questions


      Hi all, Im just coming out of stealth mode to ask a few questions on
gear placement for ocean diving.
      1. Are safty sausages generaly carried and where should thay be
placed?
      2. How about flare kits (I have several pencile type flares stored in
an old 4-c cell light housing )?
      3. Salvage tools, how should thay be arainged, I only carry if I know
I will be using them and they usaly only consist of a 4 lb. hammer, chisle,
small crow bar, and a drift pin.
      4. If diveing with a stage and a deco bottle (80 and a 40) are they
still both worn on the same side ?
      Thanks in advance for the info.
                                                         Ron


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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> pina=20
  [mailto:pina3@be*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 26, =
2002 11:46=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D902505203-27022002><FONT face=3DArial =
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  keep my small "safety sausage" in my left pocket clipped off (not sure =
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  meant the real small one or not).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
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    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> George
Irvine=20
    [mailto:girvine@be*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 25, =
2002=20
    9:29 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Salty32321@ao*.co*;=20
    techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Simple DIR
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    <DIV><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>"safety sausages" , lift
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    whatever is being carried for marking are kept between the backplate =
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    hip if there is not a bunch of other stuff.</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT=20
    face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>flares, radios or anything else that =
can't get wet=20
    needs to be in a canister - slide it on in front of the light if =
this is a=20
    needed issue. I prefer just not to dive with assholes or off of =
boats run by=20
    assholes, but I know you guys don't get that part yet.</FONT> =
<BR><BR><FONT=20
    face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>tools  should all be in one bag, it =
should be=20
    easy to handle, and it should be carried as a stage if big with =
clips on=20
    both ends or on the side if small enough. You just don't want it =
causing a=20
    CF if you have to respond to a situation or in a bad current.. If =
you really=20
    wanted to be slick, you could put the tools in the kind of container =
we use=20
    to collect water , which can be opened underwater and is carried =
like a=20
    stage. When we have to carry something a long way, we take it in a =
scooter=20
    body or a similar tube towed behind or rigged as a stage. These are=20
    permeable at the ends so they don't lock up, the buoyancy is added =
inside=20
    the open tubes</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif =
size=3D2>Bottles are worn=20
    on the left side, but can be attached by the nose to the hip ring =
instead of=20
    both clips being used between the chest and hip ring. The smaller =
bottles do=20
    better on the hip, the larger ones do well if they are high in =
helium=20
    content.<BR></FONT><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>I know
that =
you did not=20
    expect good answers to these questions, as most of you still think =
that=20
    being a complete walking clusterfuck in the water is a sign of a =
"tech"=20
    diver, that there are some "regional" issues that require you to be =
a=20
    stroke, or that we don't know what we are doing, despite powerful =
evidence=20
    to the contrary, but if you had to do the serious shit that I do, =
some of=20
    you might wake the fuck up. Jarrod and I carry more gear than you =
can=20
    fathom, and we do things underwater with total slickness and ease as =

    demonstrated by our ability to video places 19000 feet from an =
opening under=20
    300 feet of water and have it be television quality complete with =
sound and=20
    HID lighting.</FONT> <BR><BR></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
Salty32321@ao*.co*=20
      [mailto:Salty32321@ao*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 24,
=
2002 9:34=20
      PM<BR><B>To:</B>
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Simple =
DIR=20
      placement questions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT =
face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT=20
      size=3D2>Hi all, Im just coming out of stealth mode to ask a few =
questions=20
      on gear placement for ocean diving. <BR>1. Are safty sausages =
generaly=20
      carried and where should thay be placed? <BR>2. How about flare =
kits (I=20
      have several pencile type flares stored in an old 4-c cell light =
housing=20
      )? <BR>3. Salvage tools, how should thay be arainged, I only carry =
if I=20
      know I will be using them and they usaly only consist of a 4 lb. =
hammer,=20
      chisle, small crow bar, and a drift pin. <BR>4. If diveing with a =
stage=20
      and a deco bottle (80 and a 40) are they still both worn on the =
same side=20
      ? <BR>Thanks in advance for the info.=20
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