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From: "Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*>
To: cobber@ci*.co*, captjt@mi*.co*, vbtech@ci*.co*,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
Cc: dwiden@co*.ne*
Subject: Re: Last weekend's accident at Little River - newspaper report
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 15:17:04
Jimmy-
You got a lot of bad information.  From the blood issue, to Eric's 
involvement, to evacuation.  However, since a few of you were so nice to 
involve my employer, I will kindly tell you all to kiss my ass.  If you want 
the reports, which were filed two days after the incident, call Seattle 
(sorry, no cover-up there either).
Cheers,
Mike


>From: James Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
>To: Michael Barnette <aocfishman@ho*.co*>, <captjt@mi*.co*>, 
>"vbtech@ci*.co*" <vbtech@ci*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>CC: <dwiden@co*.ne*>
>Subject: Re: Last weekend's accident at Little River - newspaper report
>Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:48:01 -0500
>
>Mike a question for you.
>
>As I understand it at the time of the incident the NOAA guy had classic TOX
>symptoms, he was convulsing and his mask was full of blood. Eric got him to
>the surface and on the dive boat, the Coast Guard took him in and he got a
>chamber ride.
>
>What is interesting to me about this, does an AGE have the same basic
>symptoms of a TOX at the time of occurrence? If you have a bubble shutting
>off blood to part of your brain, that points to brain damage. A TOX, if you
>survive, does not lead to brain damage, if I understand things correctly.
>Does the diver have neurological symptoms? How did the doctors determine it
>was AGE over TOX?
>
>All you AUE guys who still think that "it is simply morbid curiosity here,
>and DIR guys trying to make a pathetic point" are simply wrong. I want to
>know, from a survivor, what prestages an AGE, what, as divers, should we be
>aware of? Certainly if we can recognize the difference between an AGE and a
>TOX it would be a really handy thing to know.
>
>Certainly you guys want to know, don't you? And if you do know, will you
>share your knowledge with us pathetic, low-rent, non-divers?
>
>    Jim
>
>On 2/21/02 10:51 PM, "Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*> wrote:
>
> >> Thanks for bring this up Mike, it makes me wonder about this....... 
>Wasn't
> >> that a NOAA "sponsored dive"? a NOAA diver that was hurt? if it was it
> >> doesn't sound like it was a recreational dive to me, or was this one of
> >> those gray areas that is just OK when you do it.
> >>
> >
> > For it to be a NOAA-sponsored dive, you would need to draft a research 
>plan
> > that has to be reviewed for authorization by the NDP Safety Board.  A
> > NOAA-authorized technical dive has numerous requirements.  In contrast, 
>this
> > was a recreational dive where each and every person payed a charter fee.
> > For me, being a NOAA working diver, it was a non-duty dive.  No grey 
>area.
> >
> > If you are interested in learning more about the NOAA Dive Program, 
>please
> > feel free to call the Seattle office.  They can bring you up to speed.
> >
> > FWIW, the NOAA funded, NURC dives are in March.
> >
> > what else ya got chief?
> >
> >
> >
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Michael C. Barnette
Association of Underwater Explorers
Because it's there...somewhere...maybe.
http://www.mikey.net/aue


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