This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1BACB.2849FEF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" George, Was not talking about the "shape" of the deco, I was talking about "me" getting in shape again. Winter hasn't been too good to me..... Thanks, Art. -----Original Message----- From: George Irvine [mailto:girvine@be*.ne*] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 6:45 AM To: Paltz, Art; trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: Standard Deco Dive It is not "in shape" it is the shape of the deco. Doing a bullshit deco from IANTD or any other ridiculously shaped and padded deco is not going to solve the problem. You are totally missing the point and I see I am again wasting my time. You guys do what you want, or wake up and figure out that I know what I am talking about. Funny that Wienke is one of the few people who know that, but then look who he works for and what his objectives are, and what his "training" is. You can listen to some borderline retarded IQ dive instructor who got his information from a dyslexic moron or a monstrous fat slob or other old wives tale sources, or you can listen to guys like me who really do it or guys like Weinke who really know it. Your choice, not my problem. I don't care what any of you do, I am just telling you that you are wrong, and will stay wrong until you forget the bullshit and learn it right. -----Original Message----- From: Art.Paltz@R2*.CO* [mailto:Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:41 AM To: trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: Standard Deco Dive Hey George, Thanks for the profile. The run time here is shorter than what I am doing, which I expected. The scary part is comparing this to the Doria dive. Yes the Doria profile is longer but only by a little comparatively. It's just scary to think about! You know old (bad) habits die hard. I think I need to get in a little better shape before I start moving towards this type of a profile but you've said that before, good shape and no PFO. Thanks again for the profile! This thread is extremely interesting and surprisingly the "noise" level is pretty low compared to previous posts where it's hard to get the info out with the "usual suspects" mucking up the water and message! Art. -----Original Message----- From: George Irvine [mailto:girvine@be*.ne*] Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 6:05 PM To: Paltz, Art; trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: Standard Deco Dive OREGON MIX DIVE al-la George Art.first of all, there is no "comparison" of a 125 air dive to anything from a decompression standpoint since there is no deco that works for that. Forget "air tables" - they are nonsense, as are nitrox "air equivalent" tables. Drop those concepts from your mind. Secondly, use 30% helium or greater - the lower percentages don't do the job. Next, leave the oxygen out of the first dive and take it on the second. Both dives have the same deco times, only use the oxygen from 20 feet on the second dive . Use the ascent from depth and the final surfacing protocol already outlined before. from bottom to 70 - 3 minutes From 70 - switch and spend 3 minutes. 60 2 50 2 40 3 30 5 20 8 To surface - 3 more minutes If you want to add time, do it from 20 to the surface. -----Original Message----- From: Art.Paltz@R2*.CO* [mailto:Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 7:55 AM To: trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: Standard Deco Dive George, My most common ocean dive is 125 ft for 45 minutes, 2 hour surface, then another 45 minutes bottom time. Previously I was using AIR for bottom gas and O2 for deco but this year I think I'm switching to a bottom mix of 21/25 (O2/He) then 50/50 and O2 for deco. According to my deco program the run times are basically the same so no extra time in the water. I'd be interested in your gas choice as well as your profile. Art. -----Original Message----- From: George Irvine [mailto:girvine@be*.ne*] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 6:53 AM To: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com Subject: Standard Deco Dive What is the most common dive you guys are doing that we can start with as an example? Give me the depth and time at the bottom. It is a lot easier to do the longer times due to the use of more gasses, but I am suspicious that nobody but us does that, and you would be an idiot to do it in the open ocean as opposed to a cave. I can then run it and also show what happens when it is longer or shorter. I personally think of dives as 100 ft, 150, 200, 250 or 300, and I use gas for 1,2 or 3. The deco gas choice is dependent on the bottom time. While the gases are standard, whether you use them all or not is operational and time dependent. Below 100 is a special case, and beyond 350 is a special case. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1BACB.2849FEF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <meta name=3DProgId content=3DWord.Document> <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 9"> <meta name=3DOriginator content=3D"Microsoft Word 9"> <link rel=3DFile-List href=3D"cid:filelist.xml@01*.76*"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; 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mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:#003300;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US style=3D'tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#003300" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family: Arial'>George,<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#003300" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family: Arial'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font>< /span></p>= <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#003300" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family: Arial'>Was not talking about the “shape” of the deco, I was = talking about “me” getting in shape again.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> = </span>Winter hasn’t been too good to = me…..<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#003300" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family: Arial'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font>< /span></p>= <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#003300" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family: Arial'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#003300" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family: Arial'>Art.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#003300" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family: Arial'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font>< /span></p>= <p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle18><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#003300" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family: Arial'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font>< /span></p>= <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> George Irvine [mailto:girvine@be*.ne*]<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February = 21, 2002 6:45 AM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Paltz, Art; = trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Standard = Deco Dive</span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><![if = !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font>< /p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>It is not = "in shape" it is the shape of the deco. Doing a bullshit deco from = IANTD or any other ridiculously shaped and padded deco is not going to solve the problem. You are totally missing the point and I see I am again wasting = my time.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt: windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You guys do = what you want, or wake up and figure out that I know what I am talking about. = Funny that Wienke is one of the few people who know that, but then look who he = works for and what his objectives are, and what his "training" = is.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You can listen = to some borderline retarded IQ dive instructor who got his information from a = dyslexic moron or a monstrous fat slob or other old wives tale sources, or = you can listen to guys like me who really do it or guys like Weinke who really = know it. Your choice, not my problem. I don't care what any of you do, I am just = telling you that you are wrong, and will stay wrong until you forget the = bullshit and learn it right.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black; mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Art.Paltz@R2*.CO* [mailto:Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*]<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, = February 20, 2002 7:41 AM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Standard = Deco Dive</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 color=3D"#993366" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hey = George,<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 color=3D"#993366" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span>& lt;/p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 color=3D"#993366" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks for the profile.<span = style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>The run time here is shorter than what I am doing, = which I expected.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>The scary part = is comparing this to the Doria dive. Yes the Doria profile is longer but = only by a little comparatively.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> = </span>It’s just scary to think about!<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> = </span>You know old (bad) habits die hard.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I = think I need to get in a little better shape before I start moving towards this = type of a profile but you’ve said that before, good shape and no = PFO.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 color=3D"#993366" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span>& lt;/p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 color=3D"#993366" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks again for the profile!<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>This thread is extremely = interesting and surprisingly the “noise” level is pretty low compared = to previous posts where it’s hard to get the info out with the “usual = suspects” mucking up the water and message!<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3D2 = color=3D"#993366" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family: Arial;color:#993366'><br> <span class=3DEmailStyle17><font = color=3D"#993366">Art.<o:p></o:p></font></span></span></font>& lt;/p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 color=3D"#993366" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span>& lt;/p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle17><font size=3D2 color=3D"#993366" face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span>& lt;/p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> George Irvine [mailto:girvine@be*.ne*]<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, February = 17, 2002 6:05 PM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Paltz, Art; = trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Standard = Deco Dive OREGON MIX DIVE al-la George</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Art.first of all, there is no "comparison" of a 125 air dive to = anything from a decompression standpoint since there is no deco that works for that. = Forget "air tables" - they are nonsense, as are nitrox "air equivalent" tables. Drop those concepts from your mind. Secondly, = use 30% helium or greater - the lower percentages don't do the job. Next, leave = the oxygen out of the first dive and take it on the = second.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Both dives have the same deco times, only use the oxygen from 20 feet on the = second dive . Use the ascent from depth and the final = surfacing protocol already outlined before.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color: black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>from bottom to 70 - 3 minutes</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color: black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>From 70 - switch and spend 3 minutes.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>60 &n= bsp; 2</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>50 &n= bsp; 2</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>40 &n= bsp; 3</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>30 &n= bsp; 5</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>20 &n= bsp; 8</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>To surface - 3 more minutes</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color: black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&n= bsp;</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If you want to add time, do it from 20 to the surface.</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:1.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></f= ont><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:2.0in'><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Art.Paltz@R2*.CO* [mailto:Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*]<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, February = 16, 2002 7:55 AM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Standard = Deco Dive</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle16><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>George,<o:p></o:p></span></font></span> </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle16><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span>& lt;/p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle16><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>My most common ocean dive is 125 ft for 45 = minutes, 2 hour surface, then another 45 minutes bottom time.<span = style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Previously I was using AIR for bottom gas and O2 for = deco but this year I think I’m switching to a bottom mix of 21/25 = (O2/He) then 50/50 and O2 for deco.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> = </span>According to my deco program the run times are basically the same so no extra time in = the water.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle16><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span>& lt;/p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle16><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I’d be interested in your gas choice as = well as your profile.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle16><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span>& lt;/p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle16><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Art.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span>< ;/p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle16><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span>& lt;/p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.0in'><span = class=3DEmailStyle16><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></span>& lt;/p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> George Irvine [mailto:girvine@be*.ne*]<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, February = 15, 2002 6:53 AM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> = Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Standard Deco = Dive</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>What is the most common dive you guys are doing that we can start with as an = example? Give me the depth and time at the bottom. </span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>It is a lot easier to do the longer times due to the use of more gasses, but I = am suspicious that nobody but us does that, and you would be an idiot to = do it in the open ocean as opposed to a cave.</span></font><font = color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I can then run it and also show what happens when it is longer or = shorter.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D2 = color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I personally think of dives as 100 ft, 150, 200, 250 or 300, and I use gas for 1,2 = or 3. The deco gas choice is dependent on the bottom time. While the gases are = standard, whether you use them all or not is operational and time dependent. = Below 100 is a special case, and beyond 350 is a special case.</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:2.5in'><font size=3D3 = color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span = style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></f ont>= </p> </div> </body> </html> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1BACB.2849FEF0-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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