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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: "Chris Dupont" <chris_zon@ho*.co*>, <ez@ez*.co*>,
     ,
Subject: RE: Standard Deco Dive
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 05:48:47 -0500
Chris, your version looks about right ( not the IANTD nonsense). Keep in
mind that any deeper you need to push that total time up, add the 50 and of
course loose the 32 and use a lower oxygen trimix for bottom.

Nitrox is not really achieving all the things we are told that it is.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Dupont [mailto:chris_zon@ho*.co*]
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 4:59 AM
To: ez@ez*.co*; trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Standard Deco Dive


Hey Eric,

Could be that it is a no-deco dive, I have been using those IANTD ean32
decotables for now.  Those say to make a stop at 15ft for 6 min for those 30
min bottomtime at 100ft with ean32 only and 13 min for those 40 min
bottomtime.

If you look at GAP it says to make 1 min at 40ft, 1 min at 30 ft and 10 at
20 ft  for the 30 min bottomtime. For the 40 min bottomtime it says 1 min at
40ft, 3 min at 30ft and 20 min at 20 ft.

If you look to V-Planner it says to make 11 min at 20ft for the 30 min and
for the 40 min it says 2 min at 30ft and 18 min at 20ft.

If you look at George is postings about deco, I think this one is in the
minimum decorange.

So what I figured out with his posts is the following.

100ft   30 min bottomtime with ean32
  *1 min to get to 70ft with 30ft/min*
70ft   1 min
60ft   1 min
50ft   2 min
40ft   2 min
30ft   3 min
20ft   3 min

For the 40 min bottomtime the same because it is a minimum deco dive.

I'm new in this, so I don't go try it in the water before I understand it
correct.

I'm not yet tested for a PFO, I drink always plenty water before and after
the dive.

Again many thanks!

Greetings,
Chris Dupont
Belgium


>  I am not Butting in, BUT...for someone without PFO and fully hydrated,
>this
>dive doesn't require deco-only 20fpm ascent and a few seconds (a minute or
>two at most if its not first of the day) at 10ft to get your self together.
>AND don't start with "my computer..." or "my software..."  I just did this
>last Sunday, Mexican Pride 130fsw bottom and 90 fsw on top. Two dives (32
>min and 44 mins with 40min surface time) No deco-slow ascent-and I pulled
>the anchor up one side and 40 ft away over the other side. Shot 180 pounds
>of fish. 29% eanx.
>     If u have not been tested for PFO then its a different story. This
>also
>depends on how you r defining bottom time.I have never been to a
>chamber(other than to visit) And I am only applying what I have experienced
>and experimented with on myself. I have been following Irvine, Jablonski,
>Weinke et al for 8 or 9 years, Understanding Georges explanations will give
>u more information/education than u could ever pay for. Your Results May
>Vary -EZ
>
>p,s, this is not what is taught thru agencies-this is what happens in the
>real world-it has nothing to do with what I have to teach.
>
>Eric Zimmerman
>EZ Scuba Diving
>7711 W Hillsborough Ave
>Tampa Fl 33615
>813 887 5712
>www.ezscuba.com
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Dupont" <chris_zon@ho*.co*>
>To: <trey@ne*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 6:21 PM
>Subject: Re: Standard Deco Dive
>
>
> > George,
> >
> > As you asked:
> >
> > 100ft depth and 30 à 40 min bottom, gas ean32.  Somethimes ean50 for
>deco.
> >
> >
> > Many thanks allready!
> >
> > Greetins,
> > Chris Dupont
> > Belgium
> >
> >
> > >From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
> > >Reply-To: <trey@ne*.co*>
> > >To: "Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >Subject: Standard Deco Dive
> > >Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 06:53:11 -0500
> > >
> > >What is the most common dive you guys are doing that we can start with
>as
> > >an
> > >example? Give me the depth and time at the bottom.
> > >
> > >It is a lot easier to do the longer times due to the use of more
>gasses,
> > >but
> > >I am suspicious that nobody but us does that, and you would be an idiot
>to
> > >do it in the open ocean as opposed to a cave.
> > >
> > >I can then run it and also show what happens when it is longer or
>shorter.
> > >
> > >I personally think of dives as 100 ft, 150, 200, 250 or 300, and I use
>gas
> > >for 1,2 or 3. The deco gas choice is dependent on the bottom time.
>While
> > >the
> > >gases are standard, whether you use them all or not is operational and
>time
> > >dependent. Below 100 is a special case, and beyond 350 is a special
>case.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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