Eric, what you get away with and what is correct may frequently be two
different things. There is no such thing as a no deco dive.

I have done 260 for 25 with 10 minutes of deco in an emergency. That does
not make it right. It makes me lucky, and I am sure my body spent the next
two weeks fixing things.

I don't want anyone to think that nitrox means no deco. It means less
obvious symptoms. I am talking get out of the water and run a triathlon with
no worries, not get out without needing a wheelchair.

See my "minimum deco" post - this is very important information that nobody
is listening to.  I have done a lot of deco, my team has done a lot. The
guys on the front lines are well tuned to their bodies and we run all kinds
of tests. Deco is your friend - spend some time with your friend on each
dive.

-----Original Message-----
From: H2Ocaver [mailto:ez@ez*.co*]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 11:00 PM
To: Chris Dupont; trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Standard Deco Dive


 I am not Butting in, BUT...for someone without PFO and fully hydrated, this
dive doesn't require deco-only 20fpm ascent and a few seconds (a minute or
two at most if its not first of the day) at 10ft to get your self together.
AND don't start with "my computer..." or "my software..."  I just did this
last Sunday, Mexican Pride 130fsw bottom and 90 fsw on top. Two dives (32
min and 44 mins with 40min surface time) No deco-slow ascent-and I pulled
the anchor up one side and 40 ft away over the other side. Shot 180 pounds
of fish. 29% eanx.
    If u have not been tested for PFO then its a different story. This also
depends on how you r defining bottom time.I have never been to a
chamber(other than to visit) And I am only applying what I have experienced
and experimented with on myself. I have been following Irvine, Jablonski,
Weinke et al for 8 or 9 years, Understanding Georges explanations will give
u more information/education than u could ever pay for. Your Results May
Vary -EZ

p,s, this is not what is taught thru agencies-this is what happens in the
real world-it has nothing to do with what I have to teach.

Eric Zimmerman
EZ Scuba Diving
7711 W Hillsborough Ave
Tampa Fl 33615
813 887 5712
www.ezscuba.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Dupont" <chris_zon@ho*.co*>
To: <trey@ne*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Standard Deco Dive


> George,
>
> As you asked:
>
> 100ft depth and 30 à 40 min bottom, gas ean32.  Somethimes ean50 for deco.
>
>
> Many thanks allready!
>
> Greetins,
> Chris Dupont
> Belgium
>
>
> >From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
> >Reply-To: <trey@ne*.co*>
> >To: "Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >Subject: Standard Deco Dive
> >Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 06:53:11 -0500
> >
> >What is the most common dive you guys are doing that we can start with as
> >an
> >example? Give me the depth and time at the bottom.
> >
> >It is a lot easier to do the longer times due to the use of more gasses,
> >but
> >I am suspicious that nobody but us does that, and you would be an idiot
to
> >do it in the open ocean as opposed to a cave.
> >
> >I can then run it and also show what happens when it is longer or
shorter.
> >
> >I personally think of dives as 100 ft, 150, 200, 250 or 300, and I use
gas
> >for 1,2 or 3. The deco gas choice is dependent on the bottom time. While
> >the
> >gases are standard, whether you use them all or not is operational and
time
> >dependent. Below 100 is a special case, and beyond 350 is a special case.
> >
>
>
>
>
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