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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: "David Burnworth" <xlh883@ea*.ne*>, <trey@ne*.co*>,
    
Subject: RE: Decoplanner for recreational
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:42:55 -0500
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Listen to the deco lectures that Tukker put on line from the classes I
talked to for his GUE courses. There is only one source of real ,
comprehensive deco information right now - the WKPP. Nobody else has the
database from real dives.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: David Burnworth [mailto:xlh883@ea*.ne*]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 2:54 PM
  To: trey@ne*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
  Subject: Re: Decoplanner for recreational


  Hi George,

  I was under the impression that the computer programs were to make up a
plan for a dive, then you take a copy of it in some form with you on the
dive.  As for the dive computers, I had an incident happen to me with one
that made me realize how reliant I was on it.  Since that dive I have been
using a bottom timer (not bottom planner, typo.)  Any way, I see now that
using the tables and applying what you have already talked about is the key
to successful diving.  Right now, I think I am having trouble grasping the
concepts because of too many sources of varying information.

  I did take the DIR-F course already and have learned quite a bit.  We just
barely touched on deco stuff and breathing mixtures.  I had already started
using the bottom timer before the class.  I plan to go with GUE's teaching's
because I have "seen the light."  I will take the Tech 1 when I can afford
to.

  Right now I feel like I have enough information to be dangerous to myself,
but not enough to be safe, safe being the goal.  I am not ready for deco
diving but am trying to prepare myself for that to come soon as a normal
dive profile.  If it takes buying that software to teach myself along with
other sources, then I am willing to do so.  I am planning to join Quest
online this week to.

  Thanks,

  D Burnworth
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: George Irvine
    To: David Burnworth ; techdiver@aquanaut.com
    Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:31 AM
    Subject: RE: Decoplanner for recreational


    David, the only benefit of deco programs is so you can dive on your
computer at home and learn from it. Then you have to apply the rules I
talked about, and then you have to use the logic . You will never need a
written table or an in-water computer. I have neither for any dive I do, and
now don't even look at the home computer to figure out a dive.

    GUE teaches people to do that, I thought you took a GUE course?

    What is a bottom planner? Is that like a topo map?
      -----Original Message-----
      From: David Burnworth [mailto:xlh883@ea*.ne*]
      Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:28 PM
      To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
      Subject: Decoplanner for recreational


      Hi everyone,

      I have given up the use of a dive computer and have reverted to a
bottom planner.  Several friends of mine are using software to generate
their own tables.  These friends do dive a little more aggressively than I
am trained to do right now as they sometimes dive with Trimix and I am
unable to at this time.

      My question is, since I am basic Nitrox qualified, would I see any
benefit of using software like Decoplanner over the standard tables that I
have from NAUI?  Air or Nitrox specifically.  My friends have 1 minute decos
planned into their tables for dives that would be generally considered no
deco dives.  I understand that stops in general are usually beneficial, but
I would like to see them in table format and be able to copy them into
wetnotes.

      In short, can a software program like DecoPlanner benefit the every
day recreational diver that occasionally goes deeper than say 60 feet for
example.

      Thank you,

      D Burnworth

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to the deco lectures that Tukker put on line from the classes I talked =
to for=20
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dives.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> David
Burnworth=20
  [mailto:xlh883@ea*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 13, =
2002=20
  2:54 PM<BR><B>To:</B> trey@ne*.co*;=20
  techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Decoplanner for=20
  recreational<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi George,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was under the impression that the =
computer=20
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in some=20
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incident=20
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it. =20
  Since that dive I have been using a bottom timer (not bottom planner,=20
  typo.)  Any way, I see now that using the tables and applying =
what you=20
  have already talked about is the key to successful diving.  Right =
now, I=20
  think I am having trouble grasping the concepts because of too many =
sources of=20
  varying information.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did take the DIR-F course already =
and have=20
  learned quite a bit.  We just barely touched on deco stuff and =
breathing=20
  mixtures.  I had already started using the bottom timer before =
the=20
  class.  I plan to go with GUE's teaching's because I have "seen =
the=20
  light."  I will take the Tech 1 when I can afford to.  =
</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Right now I feel like I have enough =
information=20
  to be dangerous to myself, but not enough to be safe, safe being the=20
  goal.  I am not ready for deco diving but am trying to prepare =
myself for=20
  that to come soon as a normal dive profile.  If it takes buying =
that=20
  software to teach myself along with other sources, then I am willing =
to do=20
  so.  I am planning to join Quest online this week to.  =
</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>D Burnworth</FONT></DIV>
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    <A title=3Dgirvine@be*.ne* =
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    Irvine</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dxlh883@ea*.ne*=20
    href=3D"mailto:xlh883@ea*.ne*">David Burnworth</A> ; <A=20
    title=3Dtechdiver@aquanaut.com=20
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February
13, =
2002 3:31=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Decoplanner
for=20
    recreational</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D685542811-13022002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2>David, the only benefit of deco programs is so you can dive =
on your=20
    computer at home and learn from it. Then you have to apply the rules =
I=20
    talked about, and then you have to use the logic . You will never =
need a=20
    written table or an in-water computer. I have neither for any dive I =
do, and=20
    now don't even look at the home computer to figure out a=20
    dive.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D685542811-13022002><FONT face=3DArial =
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    <DIV><SPAN class=3D685542811-13022002><FONT face=3DArial =
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    size=3D2>GUE teaches people to do that, I thought you took a GUE=20
    course?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D685542811-13022002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D685542811-13022002><FONT face=3DArial =
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    size=3D2>What is a bottom planner? Is that like a topo=20
map?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> David =
Burnworth=20
      [mailto:xlh883@ea*.ne*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February =
12, 2002=20
      9:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
      Decoplanner for recreational<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi everyone,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have given up the use of a dive =
computer=20
      and have reverted to a bottom planner.  Several friends of =
mine are=20
      using software to generate their own tables.  These friends =
do dive a=20
      little more aggressively than I am trained to do right now as they =

      sometimes dive with Trimix and I am unable to at this=20
      time.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My question is, since I am basic =
Nitrox=20
      qualified, would I see any benefit of using software like =
Decoplanner over=20
      the standard tables that I have from NAUI?  Air or Nitrox=20
      specifically.  My friends have 1 minute decos planned into =
their=20
      tables for dives that would be generally considered no deco=20
      dives.  I understand that stops in general are usually =
beneficial,=20
      but I would like to see them in table format and be able to copy =
them into=20
      wetnotes.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In short, can a software program =
like=20
      DecoPlanner benefit the every day recreational diver that =
occasionally=20
      goes deeper than say 60 feet for example.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>D=20
  =
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